Board Votes to Lay Off All Providence, RI Teachers

[GT Dan]

I'd prefer that we redefine what our educational needs for this country are, and where we want to progress, and rebuild the system. We're operating industrial style schools in a post-industrial world. The fact that we can't fund the system directly correlates to the fact that we're putting our youth through an arbitrary education process, and turning out people with no marketable skills whatsoever. Too many people are spending the first few years out of highschool trying to figure out what to do with themselves, when most anyone could tell you what they were interested by 14-16. Why not start them on the most appropriate path as early as possible? Why this regimented system that turns out so many unskilled, unmotivated people?

There are some non-reading mofos on this site...

they didn't fire anyone... they just sent notices that the teachers COULD be fired... isn't it ironic the union negotiates that teachers must be notified by March 1st and then bitches when the school does it...

I agree, in my opinion, it correlates with the nanny state that we have become. Lazy ass parents want the schools to raise their kids for them. If youre a parent that doesnt want them to raise your kid, you're shit out of luck. They're going to do things the way they want and you will do it their way or they'll ignore you.

I see it at my sons high school. The teachers bitch because the parents aren't involved but when you get involved, they bitch if you dont agree with what they're doing.

Everything is so regulated, they don't even try and think outside the box. If they do, they'll get raked over the coals for showing favoritism or being racist or sexist. Its reached the point of stupidity.

Think of the 5 year old kid that kisses a little girl and gets charged with sexual assault.

The honor student that drives his dad's truck to school and gets busted with a hunting knife...

I just don't see any light on the horizon... everyone talks about making it better but no one really takes action...

Stupid is contagious....

[SMEGMA STENCH]

I'd prefer that we redefine what our educational needs for this country are, and where we want to progress, and rebuild the system. We're operating industrial style schools in a post-industrial world. The fact that we can't fund the system directly correlates to the fact that we're putting our youth through an arbitrary education process, and turning out people with no marketable skills whatsoever. Too many people are spending the first few years out of highschool trying to figure out what to do with themselves, when most anyone could tell you what they were interested by 14-16. Why not start them on the most appropriate path as early as possible? Why this regimented system that turns out so many unskilled, unmotivated people?

We actually agree. odd

I've thought that the school system was broke ever since I was in it. Even as a punk kid I could see the stupidity in the way that things were done in regards to actually preparing people for the real world and what they needed to go out and get decent jobs.

[YALE]

I'd prefer that we redefine what our educational needs for this country are, and where we want to progress, and rebuild the system. We're operating industrial style schools in a post-industrial world. The fact that we can't fund the system directly correlates to the fact that we're putting our youth through an arbitrary education process, and turning out people with no marketable skills whatsoever. Too many people are spending the first few years out of highschool trying to figure out what to do with themselves, when most anyone could tell you what they were interested by 14-16. Why not start them on the most appropriate path as early as possible? Why this regimented system that turns out so many unskilled, unmotivated people?

[Jimbo]

That's fucking ridiculous. I understand a majority of them may be hired back, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Schools are overcrowded as it is, and on average around the country spending on schools should be tripled. Find the money elsewhere instead of stealing it from the future of our children, and our childrens' children, etc. Fuck New England.

Ridiculous? The state did what was necessary. I can't even comment on "tripled", talk about ridiculous.

[sc281]

That's fucking ridiculous. I understand a majority of them may be hired back, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Schools are overcrowded as it is, and on average around the country spending on schools should be tripled. Find the money elsewhere instead of stealing it from the future of our children, and our childrens' children, etc. Fuck New England.

We spend more per child than anyone else in the world and have lower educated children than most if not all first world countries.

Never put good money after bad. Time to address the inefficiencies of the public education system as a whole rather than papering over the flaws with more dollars.


Triple? Are you off your f'in rocker?

[The King]

So are they firing everyone that hoping that they will rehire as non-union? The have to have teachers...

If that what it takes to kick their union to the curb, so be it. There will be plenty of applicants available for future rehiring.

[Broncojohnny]

That's fucking ridiculous. I understand a majority of them may be hired back, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Schools are overcrowded as it is, and on average around the country spending on schools should be tripled. Find the money elsewhere instead of stealing it from the future of our children, and our childrens' children, etc. Fuck New England.

Sounds good, you go ahead and write them a check....

[Vertnut]

TRIPLE? It's proven time and again that throwing money at public education doesn't work. Teachers in Rhode Island average $57k a year. They spend about an average of about $13k per kid (it ranges from $9k-$20k depending on district). The schools are average. As a contrast, my little city here spends about $7500 per kid, and most schools are "exemplary", with a few "recognized".

[Ratt]

That's fucking ridiculous. I understand a majority of them may be hired back, but you have got to be fucking kidding me. Schools are overcrowded as it is, and on average around the country spending on schools should be tripled. Find the money elsewhere instead of stealing it from the future of our children, and our childrens' children, etc. Fuck New England.

[VETTKLR]

No, it was a union negotiation that any teacher on the chopping block had to be notified prior March 1st. So they sent letters to every one of the motherfuckers. Now that obligation is fulfilled, a large majority will be hired back, after they figure out what needs to be done.

[8mpg]

So are they firing everyone that hoping that they will rehire as non-union? The have to have teachers...

[Sean88gt]

In the words of Pat Cooper "fuck em! They're all pricks!"

Pretty crazy. I have a lot of family in that town. My dad and sister were born there. Everything is expensive as hell, pretty much to Cali standards. My grandmother had a tiny little house that was worth something like half a million bucks. Completely nuts.

[32vfromhell]

Another case of wild overspending.

[Vertnut]

No mention of republican or democrat? That's because the governor is an "Independent". Hmmm.