Biden Anti 2nd amendment promises

[juiceweezl]

Do you really think the people gouging on GunBroker need cash? like, NEED it? I don't know but I would be willing to say they don't, at least the majority don't. Sure its a business to them, it's their business but I don't agree with the manner of it so I won't pay it. That's me. I'm good on mine.

Do you really think people NEED ammo that can't get it? I mean like NEED it to live, not to hunt birds for fun on the weekend.

There are three options with anything high priced. You can 1) Pay the price and STFU; 2) You can pay the price and do nothing but bitch about the sand in your vagina because you had to pay $100 for a box of 50 rounds that used to cost $10; or 3) You can not pay the price and move along until no one buys it and it comes back down. It's that simple.

[Trip McNeely]

Have you ever heard the term rent-seeking used as a pejorative? When I buy something mechanical I want something that is reliable and not something that is produced by a company that made the decision to become a bunch of rent-seekers.

I don't have resentment towards Mercedes but in the mid-90s they made the decision that their cars were built too well and that it was hurting their sales. Since then they have designed, built, and sold an inferior product that I want no part of because they are not reliable.

Edit: I've owned numerous Mercedes w124 chassis cars. They are arguably one of the most reliable cars ever built in the history of the automotive world. They've gone from that level of craftsmanship and reliability to cars where the seat adjustments won't work on a new car because the electronics controlling them are overly complex and poorly made.

Yet per your argument, at least in here, Who cares the market justifies it. People are obviously willing to pay to have their cars consistently in the shop I mean after all its been that way for years, right? So the only people that are willing to pay for that, don't give a fuck. And you are in agreeance apparently half way that oh well, thats how they make their money.

[svauto-erotic855]

I dunno man, sounds like a lot of resentment in that first statement.

Have you ever heard the term rent-seeking used as a pejorative? When I buy something mechanical I want something that is reliable and not something that is produced by a company that made the decision to become a bunch of rent-seekers.

I don't have resentment towards Mercedes but in the mid-90s they made the decision that their cars were built too well and that it was hurting their sales. Since then they have designed, built, and sold an inferior product that I want no part of because they are not reliable.

Edit: I've owned numerous Mercedes w124 chassis cars. They are arguably one of the most reliable cars ever built in the history of the automotive world. They've gone from that level of craftsmanship and reliability to cars where the seat adjustments won't work on a new car because the electronics controlling them are overly complex and poorly made.

[Trip McNeely]

I dunno man, sounds like a lot of resentment in that first statement.

[svauto-erotic855]

I don't understand how one can make these two statements in the same hour on here...

Very simple, both statements are absolutely true.

Back in the day Olin Corporation would sell Winchester guns at a loss because they figured any gun they sold meant more ammo sales. Now Mercedes are being peddled as the absolute Pinnacle of technology and class when in reality the quality is the worst it's ever been in the company's history.

[Trip McNeely]

I don't understand how one can make these two statements in the same hour on here...

On the majority of the newer German cars you have to use a factory scanner, and Factory proprietary software simply to be able to install a new throttle position sensor. That was not done in the interest of making the car perform better; it was done in the interest of making Mercedes or any other manufacturer more money. Mercedes is even wanting to license your car to you so you don't actually own it once you bought it and they want to be the only ones that can work on it. Tesla is doing that now and if you don't believe me read what happens when people buy a used Tesla. That is their end goal the same way the banks want to make it where we no longer use cash. They just want to continue getting a cut of everything.

You sounds like Bernie Sanders. That resentment that you are feeling is the center of all evil and it's how people get manipulated to support socialism and communism.

[Trip McNeely]

You said the word "NEED" and I was trying to illustrate that using that word is the absolute Foundation of Communism which is why Karl Marx used it over and over and over in his writings. Once you think that you're the one that gets to decide with other people need you are a dictator.

Yeah as in, "I need cash, they're shutting off my water. I think I'll go buy 8 cases of 9mm and sell it at $2.00/round on Gunbroker and buy the water company." Now don't go taking the last part literally. I figure I'd put that disclaimer on there.

[svauto-erotic855]

WHO said ANYTHING about giving anything to anyone for free? I'm talking about fair market and have been. I'm not talking about charity here.

You said the word "NEED" and I was trying to illustrate that using that word is the absolute Foundation of Communism which is why Karl Marx used it over and over and over in his writings. Once you think that you're the one that gets to decide with other people need you are a dictator.

[Trip McNeely]

Do you think anyone with a net worth higher than 50 million dollars really "NEEDS" it when we have people that don't have health insurance and our schools are failing? Should we just take all that money that they don't really need and give it to people that we think need it?

WHO said ANYTHING about giving anything to anyone for free? I'm talking about fair market and have been. I'm not talking about charity here.

[svauto-erotic855]

Do you really think the people gouging on GunBroker need cash? like, NEED it? I don't know but I would be willing to say they don't, at least the majority don't. Sure its a business to them, it's their business but I don't agree with the manner of it so I won't pay it. That's me. I'm good on mine.

Do you think anyone with a net worth higher than 50 million dollars really "NEEDS" it when we have people that don't have health insurance and our schools are failing? Should we just take all that money that they don't really need and give it to people that we think need it?

[Trip McNeely]

I'm not saying it's a nice thing to do, but that's the market.

Here's my question. What is someone, youth or adult, hunting right now that they need birdshot? Didn't they have birdshot from fall and even winter for dove/qual/etc.? I always have shells left over after fall dove season. Did you wait until you had 3 shells left in 30.06 to decide to buy more? Do you need self-defense ammo or do you already have some? Do you (or not you) or anyone else complaining about it need the ammo right now for a purpose or is it going to sit on a shelf, in a safe, or in a closet? My guess is all the people crying about high prices and no inventory just want it to store themselves.

FTR, I have a coworker who is a new gun owner as of Dec. He got a G17, and it's the first gun he's ever owned. He needed ammo and could not find any to practice with. I gave him 4 boxes of FMJ for the range. I'm not the guy gouging, but if I needed cash, I absolutely would be.

Do you really think the people gouging on GunBroker need cash? like, NEED it? I don't know but I would be willing to say they don't, at least the majority don't. Sure its a business to them, it's their business but I don't agree with the manner of it so I won't pay it. That's me. I'm good on mine.

[bubbaearl]

it's a free market . supply and demand sets the price . ammo is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it . people aren't working because of this covid shit so they will do what ever they can to make money . wish i had bought 50k rounds a year ago to sell today and you can bet your ass it would go to the highest bidder .

[svauto-erotic855]

Price Gouging does not create a fair market. Price Gouging creates a bubble.

No one said anything about setting a margin, but one can see that 200% is not healthy for a "fair market."

I've sat on ammo for decades. A few weeks ago I was cleaning out my living room and decided to sell a whole bunch of 9mm ammo. I looked at with other people were getting for it and sold it for the same price. Was I gouging?

[juiceweezl]

Making money is one thing. Fucking people for the sake of greed and turning the market on its head because of it is another. It really screws the new hunter and youth hunters as well as maybe someone who needs self defense ammo but doesn't have a WW3 Bunker.

I'm not saying it's a nice thing to do, but that's the market.

Here's my question. What is someone, youth or adult, hunting right now that they need birdshot? Didn't they have birdshot from fall and even winter for dove/qual/etc.? I always have shells left over after fall dove season. Did you wait until you had 3 shells left in 30.06 to decide to buy more? Do you need self-defense ammo or do you already have some? Do you (or not you) or anyone else complaining about it need the ammo right now for a purpose or is it going to sit on a shelf, in a safe, or in a closet? My guess is all the people crying about high prices and no inventory just want it to store themselves.

FTR, I have a coworker who is a new gun owner as of Dec. He got a G17, and it's the first gun he's ever owned. He needed ammo and could not find any to practice with. I gave him 4 boxes of FMJ for the range. I'm not the guy gouging, but if I needed cash, I absolutely would be.

[Trip McNeely]

Price Gouging does not create a fair market. Price Gouging creates a bubble.

No one said anything about setting a margin, but one can see that 200% is not healthy for a "fair market."