I meant for the vast majority of people applying to full time programs (and me) regarding employer rec letters. I was speaking more colloquially, not to your individual situation.
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I did that for one of my required supervisor recs. It's a big ask for them, and if they do it right you're leaving the company. I had them review, sign off, and submit. I wrote it, was sure to let them know they had free reign to edit anything they wished before they submitted and never asked if they changed anything. I certainly had nobody recommend I do that, but I did it and later found out a lot of my colleagues had done something similar. It's a big ask to have someone do that for you, and if they half ass it b/c they're busy it could be a huge blow to you.
Gonna try to re-rail this thread, if that's a thing.
Good thing I pushed my anticipated start back to January. I found out that my application is still missing one recommendation letter. The person who said they would write it is someone I interact with at least once a week, but I know he's busy as hell with international travel, etc. This week he recommended that I write my own letter and send it to him.
He said that in his MBA application process 5 or so years ago this is what his advisors / recommended suggested he do. "No one knows you better than you, so it would be easier if you write it, then I edit, revise, put it on letterhead, and submit it."
What are your thoughts on this?
FWIW, here's the prompt:
Please attach a document on letterhead responding to the following:
We solicit your candid evaluation of the applicant's preparation for graduate study, range of abilities, and creative intellectual promise. Please summarize your opinion of (a) the quality of the applicant's academic or creative achievements, including material not apparent on the official transcripts; (b) the applicant's scholarly or creative potential and promise for advanced and original work; (c) those aspects of the applicant's personality and character significant to graduate study; and (d) the applicant's special skills and experience where demonstrated in art, vocation, or profession. We would also appreciate knowing the extent of your contact with the applicant and any special opportunities you may have had to observe him or her
I have read enough of your participation in other threads. My post is valid.
So not reading, and then trying to make a point based on what you didn't read. Good job!
I know you don't care but you're just making yourself look foolish. I said implicitly, that there was no doubt that I'd have to work for a long time before I ever got to that point. I don't know anything about what you're talking about. I've never met, nor heard of someone, like what you're mentioning. And on top of that, I also said that was if... IF... I was ever even able to do it. I made absolutely zero claims that anything was certain. Its all right there on previous pages, with dates attached to the posts. So no, actually, your post is utterly invalid. Read the thread you replied to.
I stopped reading this thread after this post.
I have had the misfortune of being on the same location with your type. It's sad but know nothings do get to sit in that chair without the skills and knowledge to know how to not kill someone. I take my job serious, I learn everything I can, any chance I get, and from anyone willing to share. I've turned down consultant gigs 3 times now knowing that I didn't have enough to keep myself around when things slowed down. My company has put me in situations that I would have never had the oppurtunities that I've had anywhere else. I'll take everything thing I can from them until I feel it's not the best opportunity anymore. You can pay for your education but you can't buy the practical experience that it takes to send everyone back home to their families in the same shape they came to work for you in.
You should have finished reading the thread. Your whole post would have been unnecessary.
I stopped reading this thread after this post.
I have had the misfortune of being on the same location with your type. It's sad but know nothings do get to sit in that chair without the skills and knowledge to know how to not kill someone. I take my job serious, I learn everything I can, any chance I get, and from anyone willing to share. I've turned down consultant gigs 3 times now knowing that I didn't have enough to keep myself around when things slowed down. My company has put me in situations that I would have never had the oppurtunities that I've had anywhere else. I'll take everything thing I can from them until I feel it's not the best opportunity anymore. You can pay for your education but you can't buy the practical experience that it takes to send everyone back home to their families in the same shape they came to work for you in.
The guy gasser (Justin) has serious mental issues.
My goal would be one of those live-on-site consultants to an oil company. Known to some as the "company man". I'm halfway through, I stopped to make some money and get out of debt because it was crushing me. By the time I'm out of debt, I estimate that it will be fall of this year and I will start school again.
My father inlaw hired two PE's straight out of college somewhat recently. As consultants. Its my hope that in the future, that can be me. The well known oilfield good ol boy network, I guess. Although I will say that Conoco/Phillips hired him with little previous experience in that particular job, so who can say if the good ol boy is really necessary.
What do you two do specifically? It sounds to me like you're more on the design side of things.
But I like the industrial atmosphere. I like the lonely places that you find yourself when you're out on location. I like the sense of urgency when there is a problem or a big problem. I like working with all of those machines and trying to find a way to make them work better. Or fixing them. I feel like it would be a job I'd enjoy.
I stopped reading this thread after this post.
I have had the misfortune of being on the same location with your type. It's sad but know nothings do get to sit in that chair without the skills and knowledge to know how to not kill someone. I take my job serious, I learn everything I can, any chance I get, and from anyone willing to share. I've turned down consultant gigs 3 times now knowing that I didn't have enough to keep myself around when things slowed down. My company has put me in situations that I would have never had the oppurtunities that I've had anywhere else. I'll take everything thing I can from them until I feel it's not the best opportunity anymore. You can pay for your education but you can't buy the practical experience that it takes to send everyone back home to their families in the same shape they came to work for you in.
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