Originally posted by Denny
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I have lost all sympathy for dumbass bikers
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I'm automatically guilty regardless of the situation just because it's a fucking sport bike. It's the truth no matter how slow or defensive I ride. I've been swerved at going 65mph in the slow lane on I-30. Why sit there and be a sitting duck? I'd prefer to stay in front of traffic as long as it doesn't force me to ride in a way that I'm not comfortable with.
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I'm not going to say I'm the best rider in the world, hell most of the guys on here probably have more experience than my limited time on the road. But I do realize that it isn't a level playing field out there. Two cars sideswipe and we trade paint and insurance cards. A car and a bike collide and someone gets killed. The rider must carry a higher level of responsibility because it is his ass that's on the line in a wreck, and because of that I have a lower tolerance for stupidity on the rider's part.Originally posted by Adam View PostI misread your other post. In that case yes absolutely the rider was at fault. In this case you're taking the op's word that the guy was going 80+ mph. If he was in his lane and the op cut over on him then I believe the op would be at fault.
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I misread your other post. In that case yes absolutely the rider was at fault. In this case you're taking the op's word that the guy was going 80+ mph. If he was in his lane and the op cut over on him then I believe the op would be at fault.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostThe only reason he didn't hit the side of my truck is because he low sided. It is the exact same event the OP described. You don't get to choose the event that best benefits your cause, we do have a topic of discussion here. And, to clarify your position, the difference between a side swap, and a rear end is about 10 inches. The only similarity here is an irresponsible rider.
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The only reason he didn't hit the side of my truck is because he low sided. It is the exact same event the OP described. You don't get to choose the event that best benefits your cause, we do have a topic of discussion here. And, to clarify your position, the difference between a side swipe, and a rear end is about 10 inches. The only similarity here is an irresponsible rider. You're attemping to differentiate rear ending and side swiping. Essentially what you're advocating is drivers should completely cut off a rider, and not half-ass the attempt. Does that make any sense to you? No, it's a completely ridiculous comparison.Originally posted by Adam View PostA rear end collision is hardly a side swipe.
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It is real hard to maintain respect when most I encounter drive irresponsible, demanding they have some entitlement for breaking rules and the other motorists that are abiding by the law should yield to their stupidity. It does force me to keep from prejudging others by giving them respect before stupid shit starts happening. Some of the responses on threads like these makes it even harder. Bottom line, you're not helping the others' outlook of the general bike riding population.
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A rear end collision is hardly a side swipe.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostThe last guy on a bike to rear end my F100 was at fault according to the police officer. He was going about 30mph over the speed limit, and had just crossed the car behind me. So, to assume the person changing lanes is always at fault.
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The last guy on a bike to rear end my F100 was at fault according to the police officer. He was going about 30mph over the speed limit, and had just crossed the car behind me. So, to assume the person changing lanes is always at fault is not always a good bet.Originally posted by Adam View PostIf you change lanes into someone who's at fault?
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If you change lanes into someone who's at fault?Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostI think the confusion here is why you're assuming the OP was being irresponsible? I'm sure the situation can be vastly different than imagined, but it seems you're immediately assuming he would be at fault.
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I think the confusion here is why you're assuming the OP was being irresponsible? I'm sure the situation can be vastly different than imagined, but it seems you're immediately assuming he would be at fault.Originally posted by Adam View PostMy intent was to point out the op's irresponsible driving. In that scenario it doesn't make a bit of difference whether it was a car/truck/tank/bus/ or Rick James' tour bus. He should be more attentive to his surroundings. Was the rider in the right for speeding? No. Was he in the right for being in and maintaining his lane yes.
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My intent was to point out the op's irresponsible driving. In that scenario it doesn't make a bit of difference whether it was a car/truck/tank/bus/ or Rick James' tour bus. He should be more attentive to his surroundings. Was the rider in the right for speeding? No. Was he in the right for being in and maintaining his lane yes.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostWhen you go off on someone for describing a completely irresponsible individual you come off like a fucking idiot defending irresponsible riding. That's the reason everyone is ripping your ass. If your intention was to defend irresponsible riding then you're doing a good job. If your intention was prove yourself a responsible rider you're doing a terrible job.
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When you go off on someone for describing a completely irresponsible individual you come off like a fucking idiot defending irresponsible riding. That's the reason everyone is ripping your ass. If your intention was to defend irresponsible riding then you're doing a good job. If your intention was prove yourself a responsible rider you're doing a terrible job.Originally posted by Adam View PostHow much riding experience do you have? Street riding experience in Dfw.
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