DUI Checkpoint greatness

[CexMashean]

I'm drinking while i read this.
And i'm not at home.

[Broncojohnny]

I don't give a shit. I'm tired of people pretending like shit like this is okay, all in the name of some supposed unspecified benefit. There is no probable cause, it is completely against the very basic founding principles of this country we live in. Pretending like it isn't a big deal is fucking stupid, and so is anyone that thinks otherwise. How about some random home checks while we're at at it? Get the fuck outta here. It pisses me off, and should piss anyone with half a brain off.

I think you are overestimating the people who post in these forums.

Eric, you don't always have to use a sledgehammer to drive a point home.



It's not like they "lost" in this situation. You can get the info you need without him answering the question. If you can get someone to speak, you can get a smell of breath. You can get the same breath with a standard answer, or his "name and badge number" routine. If he doesn't smell drunk, and doesn't look drunk (eyes, appearance, etc), then he goes about his way. Simple as that.

It's the totality of the circumstances, not the answer to the question.

I don't give a shit. I'm tired of people pretending like shit like this is okay, all in the name of some supposed unspecified benefit. There is no probable cause, it is completely against the very basic founding principles of this country we live in. Pretending like it isn't a big deal is fucking stupid, and so is anyone that thinks otherwise. How about some random home checks while we're at at it? Get the fuck outta here. It pisses me off, and should piss anyone with half a brain off.

[GhostTX]

Eric, you don't always have to use a sledgehammer to drive a point home.



It's not like they "lost" in this situation. You can get the info you need without him answering the question. If you can get someone to speak, you can get a smell of breath. You can get the same breath with a standard answer, or his "name and badge number" routine. If he doesn't smell drunk, and doesn't look drunk (eyes, appearance, etc), then he goes about his way. Simple as that.

It's the totality of the circumstances, not the answer to the question.

Good point




Just curious, 5th Amendment in application here?

[03trubluGT]

I have lost people to DUI wrecks a bunch of times, and I can not stand the random DUI trap - as I feel they are very ineffective, and that the police have no buisiness stopping random people for no reason....

BUT

If you have the misfortune of going through one, you are not accomplishing ANYTHING by being a douche to the cop. He could have said no and been out of there a minute earlier. Refusing to answer the cops questions is not going to stop random checkpoints from being used, and I'd be willing to bet that this guy has not made any effort to address his displeasure with the procedure through the proper channels to try and get this policy changed.

Sure, this guy exercised his rights not to answer, but what did it accomplish? If he would have smelled of booze or slurred on any one of his questions, he would have been out of the car with a quickness. If the cops really wanted to be dicks, they would have just said they smelled booze for not complying with them, and later say he failed or refused a field sobriety test.

Hooray for sticking it to "the man" er.... being a douche and changing nothing.

Pretty good post for a kid...

[03trubluGT]

You're too fucking dense for me to explain it to you. You're the type of person that is perfectly fine giving up a little freedom here and a little freedom there, all in the name of some vague non existent personal security. Fuck you and everything you stand for.

Eric, you don't always have to use a sledgehammer to drive a point home.



It's not like they "lost" in this situation. You can get the info you need without him answering the question. If you can get someone to speak, you can get a smell of breath. You can get the same breath with a standard answer, or his "name and badge number" routine. If he doesn't smell drunk, and doesn't look drunk (eyes, appearance, etc), then he goes about his way. Simple as that.

It's the totality of the circumstances, not the answer to the question.

[Broncojohnny]

Did you live here more when they were outlawed? If so, what part did you play in having them outlawed? What are your plans to address this oppression in other states, or are you ok with the gestapo keeping other Americans down, so long as it doesnt affect you?

Fail

[clevelandkid]

Hey moron, the Texas legislature outlawed them years ago.

Now it is time for you to try to change the scope of the argument, go ahead fool, amuse me with your bullshit.

Did you live here more when they were outlawed? If so, what part did you play in having them outlawed? What are your plans to address this oppression in other states, or are you ok with the gestapo keeping other Americans down, so long as it doesnt affect you?

[Broncojohnny]

I see, you won't answer my question, because you have done exactly nothing about having DUI checkpoints stopped - same as me, but you can't just admit to that - you have to act like a child and resort to name calling instead.

Carry on.

Hey moron, the Texas legislature outlawed them years ago.

Now it is time for you to try to change the scope of the argument, go ahead fool, amuse me with your bullshit.

[mstng86]

<<takes a look at the calendar. oh hey, looky there, its Friday.

[clevelandkid]

God damn you are an idiot. I'll give you a hint, we live in Texas in case you haven't noticed. Now figure out why you are an idiot. READY.....SET.....GO!

I see, you won't answer my question, because you have done exactly nothing about having DUI checkpoints stopped - same as me, but you can't just admit to that - you have to act like a child and resort to name calling instead.

Carry on.

[Broncojohnny]

What now is they will be conducting checkpoints today, tomorrow, and until further notice anyways.

What have you done to change it?

God damn you are an idiot. I'll give you a hint, we live in Texas in case you haven't noticed. Now figure out why you are an idiot. READY.....SET.....GO!

[clevelandkid]

Oh I see, exactly what law gave police the power to run DUI checkpoints? Can you let us all know which one that is so we can change it?

I'll give you a hint, there wasn't one. SO WHAT NOW?

What now is they will be conducting checkpoints today, tomorrow, and until further notice anyways.

What have you done to change it?

[Broncojohnny]

The people in 1776 did something about changing the laws they didn't like, and created new ones that they did by force. The douche refusing to answer a question didn't change shit.

Oh I see, exactly what law gave police the power to run DUI checkpoints? Can you let us all know which one that is so we can change it?

I'll give you a hint, there wasn't one. SO WHAT NOW?

[onemeangixxer7502]

The people in 1776 did something about changing the laws they didn't like, and created new ones that they did .The douche refusing to answer a question didn't change shit.

but he did stay at a holiday in express last night!