ZL1/GT500 on same dyno

[STROKD]

Comparing apples to oranges. Apples to apples would be the GT500 and the ZL1. The price difference between the two is comparable to the price difference between the GT and the ZO6 but the cars are very different. Even if the GT500 has 145 more hp than the ZO6, if somebody had the money the ZO6 would be a much more fun car to have. However, the mustang and the camaro have been butting heads for nearly 50 years now and finally the mustang wins in pretty much every aspect except for price. For that extra 15k, you get 100 more rwhp, a better built vehicle, and the fact that it's just more comfortable. I drove a newer rental camaro a couple of years back and the ergonomics of it were just fucking horrible. Drove a 2010 GT500 back when I worked at 5 star and it was just nice and easy to drive.

He was comparing for me since I asked what to buy? I wouldn't be caught dead in a camaro

[Broncojohnny]

Well, here is a nice site that explains their whole system.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/kb/questions/519/2006+Z06%3A+Dry+Sump+Oiling+System

[CJ]

Me too. I supposed that the situation could be that the reservoir isn't big enough in the GM system and repeated starving of the scavenge side means the reservoir gets depleted. Not sure exactly though. I guess I'm going to have to pull a Dr. Google now. lol

Leave it to GM to allow a dry sump LS motor to starve for oil.

[Broncojohnny]

Well yes I understand that, but in this application (starving) I was under the understanding a dry sump prevented it since there the feed system had no air in it, and was under pressure from a separate reservoir.

Me too. I supposed that the situation could be that the reservoir isn't big enough in the GM system and repeated starving of the scavenge side means the reservoir gets depleted. Not sure exactly though. I guess I'm going to have to pull a Dr. Google now. lol

[CJ]

No, the point is to reduce windage. Instead of having a bunch of oil flying around in the oil pan creating drag on the crankshaft, it gets sucked out by the pump and put into a tank where it is distributed from there.

Well yes I understand that, but in this application (starving) I was under the understanding a dry sump prevented it since there the feed system had no air in it, and was under pressure from a separate reservoir.

[jdgregory84]

Yep, depends on what you want to do. For 1/4 mile work, the '13 GT500 is going to be a few grand from running 9's and 10's all day long. For road course work, I'd still get the C6Z personally.

Both are sweet cars for sure in their own special ways.

Comparing apples to oranges. Apples to apples would be the GT500 and the ZL1. The price difference between the two is comparable to the price difference between the GT and the ZO6 but the cars are very different. Even if the GT500 has 145 more hp than the ZO6, if somebody had the money the ZO6 would be a much more fun car to have. However, the mustang and the camaro have been butting heads for nearly 50 years now and finally the mustang wins in pretty much every aspect except for price. For that extra 15k, you get 100 more rwhp, a better built vehicle, and the fact that it's just more comfortable. I drove a newer rental camaro a couple of years back and the ergonomics of it were just fucking horrible. Drove a 2010 GT500 back when I worked at 5 star and it was just nice and easy to drive.

[STROKD]

You know you want one...

Don't need you pushing me off the fence, I'm having lack of self control as it is. The wife wants a c6, so I'm prob gonna buy her y2k to help her out when we find the exact car. I found one by fluke but it's a vert and she wants tunes which will be a lot better in a coupe (hatch)...

If she decides to wait Ill end up with my dad's c6 and go for the national stock cid record, which should be fairly easy with what I have planned. C6z or a Shelby are back-ups if my pop's loves his car when we finish first round of mods and decides to keep it.

[Steve]

Not only 10s, but Evolutions bolt on car is runnin 10.0s at 1-fucken41... Shit is gettin REAL!

You know you want one...

[STROKD]

Yep, depends on what you want to do. For 1/4 mile work, the '13 GT500 is going to be a few grand from running 9's and 10's all day long. For road course work, I'd still get the C6Z personally.

Both are sweet cars for sure in their own special ways.

Not only 10s, but Evolutions bolt on car is runnin 10.0s at 1-fucken41... Shit is gettin REAL!

[quikag]

The GT500 is a fast SOB. Check out this 75-160mph vid a guy posted on youtube:

[quikag]

You can't go wrong with either one.

Yep, depends on what you want to do. For 1/4 mile work, the '13 GT500 is going to be a few grand from running 9's and 10's all day long. For road course work, I'd still get the C6Z personally.

Both are sweet cars for sure in their own special ways.

[STROKD]

You can't go wrong with either one.

I know, they are both awesome stock, and better modded... Wish I could afford both! But I'm cheap so prob settle for another c-sux

[Steve]

C6Z or GT500, that is the real question.

You can't go wrong with either one.

[STROKD]

C6Z or GT500, that is the real question.

[quikag]

No, the point is to reduce windage. Instead of having a bunch of oil flying around in the oil pan creating drag on the crankshaft, it gets sucked out by the pump and put into a tank where it is distributed from there.

I've heard the Z06, LS3 Grand sport (manual tranny), and ZR1 all have a dry sump, but it's not a full blown "true" dry sump. I don't understand the nuances, but I literally have many thousands of track miles under my belt of an '01 LS1 C5, '08 LS3 C6, and now my '10 C6 with zero oil starvation issues. Owner's manual is explicit to add one quart of oil above the full mark on the LS1/LS6/LS3, etc. engines when tracking the car. I've always done so and just watched oil pressures and oil temps on the instrument cluster and never had an issue. I don't think the dry sump cars are supposed to get the extra quart, so I just top off the oil every track day to the full line now.