Random Fight of the day Thread!!!

[Pokulski-Blatz]

And you are an angry little shit. That's what is funny about instances like this. You see a few seconds of a video and have it all figured out. If the dude who received the beat down actually stole then he deserves every bit of what he got regardless of whatever it is that was stolen and don't care who it was who issued the beat down. Guarantee if this was some bystander trying to stop a thief you'd be all over it wanting to hump his leg.

I don't see how your idiocy has any bearing on me being angry. I have been an LP agent for several companies and am well aware of the proper procedures for making an apprehension. Regardless of what the guy deserved that particular apprehension will cost the company more money than the value of the items recovered. That is my point. The LP agents were wrong no matter what the guy did or stole. At no point is it acceptable to be unprofessional. Maybe if you read my post where I addressed several things I saw wrong you would see where I am coming from.

Like I said, I will handle someone stealing from me differently than I will handle theft from a company I work for.

[SS Junk]

Fuck you are an idiot. That video was shot at Walmart. I am pretty fucking sure that those aren't the Walton boys.

And you are an angry little shit. That's what is funny about instances like this. You see a few seconds of a video and have it all figured out. If the dude who received the beat down actually stole then he deserves every bit of what he got regardless of whatever it is that was stolen and don't care who it was who issued the beat down. Guarantee if this was some bystander trying to stop a thief you'd be all over it wanting to hump his leg.

[line-em-up]

Fuck you are an idiot. That video was shot at Walmart. I am pretty fucking sure that those aren't the Walton boys.

You both have good points. You are just coming from different angles. My first post was from SS Junks angle, but I also understand that you need to pick your battles and, to me, saving wallyworld's money ain't one of them.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Stealing is stealing. Do you know they were just employees?

Fuck you are an idiot. That video was shot at Walmart. I am pretty fucking sure that those aren't the Walton boys.

[SS Junk]

Someone stealing my personal property is going to be handled differently than someone stealing company property as long as I am just an employee.

Stealing is stealing. Do you know they were just employees?

[phaux]

Yup...

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Which, if you read any of the "fucking thieves" threads on this site you'd think responses to this would be more on the positive side. Weird how that works.

Someone stealing my personal property is going to be handled differently than someone stealing company property as long as I am just an employee.

[SS Junk]

He got what he deserved. There's an easy way to avoid it. Don't steal shit and you won't get the fuck beat out of you. More people should get dealt with like that and maybe they would think twice.

Which, if you read any of the "fucking thieves" threads on this site you'd think responses to this would be more on the positive side. Weird how that works.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

I missed or did I, what was the guy trying to steal?

No idea.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Eh, I have beaten the shit out of dudes before they would give me the other hand. It's like their final battle for freedom.

I have too but if I can control one hand chances are good that I am going to get the other pretty fast. You were dealing with guys that were going to go away for a long time, I was dealing with shoplifters and drunks. But if a different level methinks.

[cool cat]

I missed or did I, what was the guy trying to steal?

[BradM]

Calling 911 prior to a stop is a no no. It is a waste of city time if it turns out to be a bad stop. Also, there is a bunch of paperwork that needs to be done prior to PD getting there. In Texas loss prevention can detain a customer, I forget the law off hand but there is something that gives retailers that ability.

Re watching the video makes me ask a few questions. First, why the fuck were they that far from the doors? Did the guy run? If so why didn't you let him go? Second, you have control of at least one arm, why are the handcuffs not on that arm? Handcuffs can make the shoplifter give up the fight or at the very least give you a good leverage point to get that arm behind his back and up between the shoulder blades. One he is in that position you keep applying force till he places the other hand behind the back. Third, why was the punch to the face necessary? I don't care if he bit you, turning a professional detention into a street fight is a no go. Fourth, as soon as the dude went for the pocket the guy in black should have been aware, why was he controlling the head at that point instead of keeping control of that hand?

After what I saw I would never ever work with the guy in red, he is as useless as can be with a hands on apprehension. I really want to know why it took that long to get him to ground. Both of the LP agents need to consider a career in another field ... fast.

There is a right and a wrong way to detain both hands on and hands off. I have worked for companies that do both. I prefer the hands off approach, but going hands on can be fun.

Eh, I have beaten the shit out of dudes before they would give me the other hand. It's like their final battle for freedom.

[soap]

Fuck that shit. I don't get paid enough to do this shit.

After my brawl last year. I'm done with trying to save a multimillion dollar company money. I'm NOT an LP, but I used to stop a lot of people walking out with beer.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Taking into consideration the area he appears to be in and the class of people who are involved. What the fuck could he have stolen that would warrant two wannabe cops to try to restrain him and then end up getting into a knife fight over? That shit was stupid. All three people are fuck tards. It also seemed no one called 911, isn't that part of being "loss prevention". What gives them the authority to actively arrest people?


Edit: just read video description. It was wal mart.

Calling 911 prior to a stop is a no no. It is a waste of city time if it turns out to be a bad stop. Also, there is a bunch of paperwork that needs to be done prior to PD getting there. In Texas loss prevention can detain a customer, I forget the law off hand but there is something that gives retailers that ability.

Re watching the video makes me ask a few questions. First, why the fuck were they that far from the doors? Did the guy run? If so why didn't you let him go? Second, you have control of at least one arm, why are the handcuffs not on that arm? Handcuffs can make the shoplifter give up the fight or at the very least give you a good leverage point to get that arm behind his back and up between the shoulder blades. One he is in that position you keep applying force till he places the other hand behind the back. Third, why was the punch to the face necessary? I don't care if he bit you, turning a professional detention into a street fight is a no go. Fourth, as soon as the dude went for the pocket the guy in black should have been aware, why was he controlling the head at that point instead of keeping control of that hand?

After what I saw I would never ever work with the guy in red, he is as useless as can be with a hands on apprehension. I really want to know why it took that long to get him to ground. Both of the LP agents need to consider a career in another field ... fast.

There is a right and a wrong way to detain both hands on and hands off. I have worked for companies that do both. I prefer the hands off approach, but going hands on can be fun.

[Probie]

I am going on the horribly simple idea that the dude was guilty. The downside is that if he wasn't, it would suck. I understand the reality that they shouldn't do that for the reasons you guys have mentioned already. In reality, that is for a jury to decide.

Taking into consideration the area he appears to be in and the class of people who are involved. What the fuck could he have stolen that would warrant two wannabe cops to try to restrain him and then end up getting into a knife fight over? That shit was stupid. All three people are fuck tards. It also seemed no one called 911, isn't that part of being "loss prevention". What gives them the authority to actively arrest people?


Edit: just read video description. It was wal mart.