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  • #31
    Originally posted by Clifton View Post
    No DOHC or OHC really? update that LS turd already. The 1900's are over.
    No need to fix what isn't broken.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
      No need to fix what isn't broken.
      Clearly it's working just fine.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by CJ View Post
        Clearly it's working just fine.
        but ferds got more horsepower per leiters, and they don't even have direction inejctions(yet)!!!
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mach1 View Post
          but ferds got more horsepower per leiters, and they don't even have direction inejctions(yet)!!!
          Maybe they are working out the direct injection and efi/management so that when they have to bump mpg's for CAFE they can step up a sohc or dohc and keep going.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Baron View Post
            Maybe they are working out the direct injection and efi/management so that when they have to bump mpg's for CAFE they can step up a sohc or dohc and keep going.
            yeah, thats the (yet) part the coyote was designed with DI in mind
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mach1 View Post
              yeah, thats the (yet) part the coyote was designed with DI in mind
              you could say ford and gm went two different directions: Ford went away from pushrods and is now working twards DI, while GM put more effort into DI and will have to work away from pushrods. You can bet that the relationships that GM has with Toyota and some others will be fruitfull if they can trade DI tech for head/vvt tech.
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              • #37
                Personally, I like the fact that GM is keeping up with ford staying with a traditional single cam all these years. It's been 16 years since ford went DOHC and we're still having this conversation.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by CJ View Post
                  Personally, I like the fact that GM is keeping up with ford staying with a traditional single cam all these years. It's been 16 years since ford went DOHC and we're still having this conversation.
                  19, if you count the 93 Mark viii
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CJ View Post
                    Personally, I like the fact that GM is keeping up with ford staying with a traditional single cam all these years. It's been 16 years since ford went DOHC and we're still having this conversation.
                    Keeping up? Gm was whoopin fords ass for quite some time with their old antiquated pushrod v8, gotta love it.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by CJ View Post
                      Personally, I like the fact that GM is keeping up with ford staying with a traditional single cam all these years. It's been 16 years since ford went DOHC and we're still having this conversation.
                      and it is still a lot more enjoyable to work on the ls motors. head gaskets, no problem, cam swap, cake, parts availability, second to none!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mach1 View Post
                        Keeping up? Gm was whoopin fords ass for quite some time with their old antiquated pushrod v8, gotta love it.
                        my point exactly.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
                          and it is still a lot more enjoyable to work on the ls motors. head gaskets, no problem, cam swap, cake, parts availability, second to none!
                          Couldn't agree more.
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                          • #43
                            Id love to see the actual cost numbers on the ls series vs the mod v8s. I know there are a ton of versions of the ls, and the mod had such a large longblock portability thoughout multiple models, car and truck alike (at least in terms of the 4.6).

                            GM may have been making more power, but at what cost?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Baron View Post
                              Id love to see the actual cost numbers on the ls series vs the mod v8s. I know there are a ton of versions of the ls, and the mod had such a large longblock portability thoughout multiple models, car and truck alike (at least in terms of the 4.6).

                              GM may have been making more power, but at what cost?
                              A mod motor has considerably more material, casting, milling, and tool hours than an LS motor.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by CJ View Post
                                A mod motor has considerably more material, casting, milling, and tool hours than an LS motor.
                                x234
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