50 Squids, 1 Black Rover...

[Hobie]

I'm late but s cop was arrested for this - he was one of the guys breaking windows. Y'all on that yet? Or was that SO 2 days ago? lol

[Zeus The LSX Coupe]

<--- LEO, you are mistaken, there was no hit and run that took place. Past that, the suv was on the phone with the police, the bikers were not. Also, for the last f-ing time, the police have video from the WHOLE incident. Before, during after. They also have statements from a lot of other bikers, who are throwing the other bikers under the bus, or SUV in this case. Get over yourself, go learn the facts. I would have run them over also with what they were doing. I also would have thrown it in reverse when I got stuck in traffic. Then, those assaulting me would have a 9mm in their face. It is that simple.

Alright, alright, alright!! Calm down there Roscoe!! I just said I am obviously not as up to date on all of the facts. I work nights and sometimes I miss a few details because of that. Again, I apologize!! Machx2 you're way tougher than I am on this keyboard fighting. Lol I need to keyboard spar some more I guess.

[Zeus The LSX Coupe]

In one of the articles posted it stated the dude was trying to slow the SUV down so his buddies could pass and ride next to each other. This lead to the SUV bumping the bike because he couldn't slow down fast enough.

Well if that is the case then I apologize for my ignorance of the situation. I was obviously not as informed as I thought i was.

I am wrong and I now agree that the bikers were totally at fault. My apologize for getting you boys all riled up and butt hurt! Ha ha

[Machx2]

No, we don't. There is an account of the SUV committing a hit and run on a biker prior to this. Hence the very reason they were pursuing this particular vehicle.

You Ford boys don't like someone who disagrees with you at all huh? Lol

<--- LEO, you are mistaken, there was no hit and run that took place. Past that, the suv was on the phone with the police, the bikers were not. Also, for the last f-ing time, the police have video from the WHOLE incident. Before, during after. They also have statements from a lot of other bikers, who are throwing the other bikers under the bus, or SUV in this case. Get over yourself, go learn the facts. I would have run them over also with what they were doing. I also would have thrown it in reverse when I got stuck in traffic. Then, those assaulting me would have a 9mm in their face. It is that simple.

[94whitehorse]

If those are the circumstances that set this whole thing in motion then I will agree the bikers were dead wrong. What if it comes out that the SUV had hit one of them prior to this, then what would be your assessment of the situation?[/QUOTE]

Three things would allow me to believe this did not happen.
One. They were all cruising along until the pack began to change lanes. Many bikes were ahead of the SUV already.
Two. Only one bike was involved in the initial slow down of the vehicle, not a mob looking to pull them over to discuss a prior altercation.
Three. Once an altercation did happen speeds escalated and many surrounded the SUV.

If I am wrong, so be it. However, I did do more than just rely on the news to give my opinion to me.

[BLAKE]

My argument is that "if" he had hit a bike prior to this and left the scene (there are some alleged eye witnesses to that fact) and they were only trying to slow him down for authorities then I say the SUV guy got what he deserved. Make sense?

"Slowing him down for the authorities" is not their job. In fact, it's illegal and clearly causes more problems. This is the logical fallacy in your argument.

Call me cynical, but of course there are alleged eye witnesses to that fact. The problem is that that report has no video evidence (up to this point) and only came out well after the fact when persons of interest were in serious CYA mode.

Even if the SUV made contact with a rider previous to the video evidence at hand, can he be blamed for continuing on? How do they know he wasn't headed to the police station? He called 911 when apparently no bikers had. Clearly stopping in the middle of 100+ motorcyclists proved dangerous to all involved in this instance either way.

[white88]

Not any more. I rode when stunting first started in the '90's. I haven't been on a sport bike since 2002. I didn't realize there were videos of before. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and if I am then I have no problem saying so. I am going solely off the original video posted and the accounts from people on TV that said the SUV driver hit a biker before the original video started. Why did they just single this guy out then?

In one of the articles posted it stated the dude was trying to slow the SUV down so his buddies could pass and ride next to each other. This lead to the SUV bumping the bike because he couldn't slow down fast enough.

[Zeus The LSX Coupe]

The other videos have been posted online.
I haven't owned a ford since 2007.
Are you aware of how FUCKING RIGHT you are, or is this one of those ignorance/bliss moments FOR ME?

Fixed!!

[Zeus The LSX Coupe]

Some people think their shitty tricks are more important than other people's time/saftey.

Agreed, that is one of the reasons I quit riding. I was also tired of crashing and seeing my friends die.

[Zeus The LSX Coupe]

So only one biker in a crowd of 100+ bikes has a camera running and nobody captured the range rovers infraction? Sounds plausible. Clearly the guy driving his family down the highway is at fault and a pack of bikes is justified in closing down the highway and enforcing their own brands of justice for a violation that so far has no evidence.

Welcome, new guy. Now please stop being wrong.

I am not saying that they were justified in issuing their own justice but no one here can prove that he didn't hit another biker before all of this. If in fact it all resulted in what is in the original video where he bumped the bike after the bike cut in front of him (almost hitting his bumper while moving over) and getting on the brakes, then yes I agree the bikers got what they deserve. My argument is that "if" he had hit a bike prior to this and left the scene (there are some alleged eye witnesses to that fact) and they were only trying to slow him down for authorities then I say the SUV guy got what he deserved. Make sense? I may not be totally informed on this but as far as I knew the original video was the only one depicting the whole situation and then I heard the accounts of the "hit and run" prior to the video.

He happened to be the car in the lane they wanted, they slowed to a stop and he misjudged breaking distance bumping into the rider who stopped and knocking him off his bike. The rest of the group quickly surrounded the vehicle.
A quick judgement call would tell you that they didn't all hop off their bikes to ask him for insurance information. I also highly doubt a man who could afford to drive him family around in a Rover is scared of an insurance claim...

If those are the circumstances that set this whole thing in motion then I will agree the bikers were dead wrong. What if it comes out that the SUV had hit one of them prior to this, then what would be your assessment of the situation?

[CWO]

death to all clutches!

god bless.

[ ] zing

[BradM]

Not any more. I rode when stunting first started in the '90's. I haven't been on a sport bike since 2002. I didn't realize there were videos of before. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and if I am then I have no problem saying so. I am going solely off the original video posted and the accounts from people on TV that said the SUV driver hit a biker before the original video started. Why did they just single this guy out then?

Some people think their shitty tricks are more important than other people's time/saftey.

[Zeus The LSX Coupe]

Lol, watch the videos before, during, and after. They are all available.

No judgement will be made on my part, I am just curious. Do you ride in the stunter groups?

Not any more. I rode when stunting first started in the '90's. I haven't been on a sport bike since 2002. I didn't realize there were videos of before. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and if I am then I have no problem saying so. I am going solely off the original video posted and the accounts from people on TV that said the SUV driver hit a biker before the original video started. Why did they just single this guy out then?

[CexMashean]

No, we don't. There is an account of the SUV committing a hit and run on a biker prior to this. Hence the very reason they were pursuing this particular vehicle.

You Ford boys don't like someone who disagrees with you at all huh? Lol

The other videos have been posted online.
I haven't owned a ford since 2007.
Are you aware of how retarded you are, or is this one of those ignorance/bliss moments?

[94whitehorse]

Probably not if I had just hit one of them and I was trying to flee. You guys are not looking beyond what you see in the video. Why would they just single out a random person going down the highway?

He happened to be the car in the lane they wanted, they slowed to a stop and he misjudged breaking distance bumping into the rider who stopped and knocking him off his bike. The rest of the group quickly surrounded the vehicle.
A quick judgement call would tell you that they didn't all hop off their bikes to ask him for insurance information. I also highly doubt a man who could afford to drive him family around in a Rover is scared of an insurance claim...