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[stevo]

The mere sight of guns and the other things you listed should have no effect on your kids. It is your job as a parent to explain to your kids what is happening and why. It will not be easy to explain to them these concepts, as they're adult topics, but you can't shelter them from these sorts of things their entire lives. Would you rather them be prepared to see something like this when they're out on their own, or them experience it for the first time and not know how to react?

This. I really don't want my kids to watch two gay guys kissing on the street, but it is their right. I explained to my kids why it happens. I don't want to see it, or my kids to see it, but I CANNOT repress their right to do it. Attempting to regulate it to only be done in hiding, out of the view of the public is the first step to making it illegal to do so at all.

Stevo

[racrguy]

I see your point Sean & yes I agree. In short the point your trying to make and everyone is standing up for is. If you take away that right. What right is gonna be next. Omce you start taking that stuff it eventually leads to a communist society.

Not communist, but most definitely it'll wind up a dictatorship.

At the same token. Just rather people not go advertising it.

I'd rather people not do a lot of things, that doesn't mean that I'd try in any way to stop them.

I don't care if people do drugs. Just don't do it in front of my kids. I don't care if people like the same sex. Just do it behind closed doors. Not in front of my kids. That's my point I was trying to make

The mere sight of guns and the other things you listed should have no effect on your kids. It is your job as a parent to explain to your kids what is happening and why. It will not be easy to explain to them these concepts, as they're adult topics, but you can't shelter them from these sorts of things their entire lives. Would you rather them be prepared to see something like this when they're out on their own, or them experience it for the first time and not know how to react?

[SEB]

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[juiceweezl]

Sean you know me man! I think I was mis understood in this thread. But you hit the nail on the head. Its my kids and children. All that school shit happening puts me on edge and last thing I want to see is this becoming a habit

All that school shit happening...you mean learning? You guys crack me up. Let's play the math game.

I did a few quick searches and didn't refine to make years match, but this will suffice.

# of schools in the US for the 2009-2010 school year: 138,925

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84

# of instructional days in a school year (varies, but you have to pick a number): 180 days

http://www.ecs.org/html/Document.asp?chouseid=10668

So 138,925 * 180 = 25,006,500 possibilities for a school shooting on a particular day at a particular school.

Now, let's look at actual events:

4 -- the number of school shootings in 2012 (the year of Newtown, Conn.)

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171774/fifteen-us-mass-shootings-happened-2012-84-dead#

So, that's 4 out of 25,006,500. I'd say that the 'school happenings' you're referring to putting you on edge means you must be referring to learning or the songs they sing in music or the fact that they can't play dodge ball at PE anymore.

Get over yourself and stop being afraid of what you can see -- someone who is a law abiding citizen exercising his/her rights. Be afraid of what you can't see openly -- thugs sneaking around with hidden weapons, libtards trying to make us socialists, and law abiding CHL citizens ready to defend themselves.

[SEB]

I do, and that's why I didn't take the route I normally would when someone says the things you said.



Probably, but the words you're using are really dangerous to personal liberties. I emplore you to better explain your thoughts.



Fair enough. Nobody is telling you that you can't be on edge, but what they are telling you is that you can't dictate what other people do based on you being afraid of something. If the guy isn't bothering anyone and just moseyin' on down the road with his long gun slung across his back, let the man keep on keepin' on. I view gun rights the same way I view drugs. If it's not directly affecting me and mine, it's none of my business, and if someone wants to limit someone's ability to do drugs, they need to have a good justification for it.

I see your point Sean & yes I agree. In short the point your trying to make and everyone is standing up for is. If you take away that right. What right is gonna be next. Omce you start taking that stuff it eventually leads to a communist society.

At the same token. Just rather people not go advertising it. I don't care if people do drugs. Just don't do it in front of my kids. I don't care if people like the same sex. Just do it behind closed doors. Not in front of my kids. That's my point I was trying to make

[racrguy]

Sean you know me man!

I do, and that's why I didn't take the route I normally would when someone says the things you said.

I think I was mis understood in this thread.

Probably, but the words you're using are really dangerous to personal liberties. I implore you to better explain your thoughts.

But you hit the nail on the head. Its my kids and children. All that school shit happening puts me on edge and last thing I want to see is this becoming a habit

Fair enough. Nobody is telling you that you can't be on edge, but what they are telling you is that you can't dictate what other people do based on you being afraid of something. If the guy isn't bothering anyone and just moseyin' on down the road with his long gun slung across his back, let the man keep on keepin' on. I view gun rights the same way I view drugs. If it's not directly affecting me and mine, it's none of my business, and if someone wants to limit someone's ability to do drugs, they need to have a good justification for it.

[SEB]

Prove it...

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

You would put me on the spot LOL

Results coming shortly

[davbrucas]

Im really not LOL! I am a conservative. Hell I don't think I could be a liberal and be a member on this board. I wouldn't make it

Prove it...

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[stevo]

Stevo I have know you on here for years. No not going to call you out. Im little old to be doing that shit. But im not spinless! Just being a father has softened me up

Being a father should have hardened you up. I wasn't as jaded and pissed off about our country when I was young, but when I had kids (and now grandkids) I realized the core values of our country are are being cut to pieces. All it takes is one person to say "FUCK YOUR RIGHTS" and then a couple other people with weak minds or agendas start parroting it, then hundreds- then thousands. Soon, that RIGHT IS FUCKED for everyone. When it is gone, it is gone, you won't be getting it back. It is a right that my kids and grandkids won't ever see. So, I take that shit very seriously.

Stevo

[Chili]

Stevo I have know you on here for years. No not going to call you out. Im little old to be doing that shit. But im not spinless! Just being a father has softened me up

I think you just spent too much time snuggling with Steve. Hehe.

[Rick Modena]

Awe dammit! You would point that shit out. FUCK FUCK FUCK LOL typical me

It's OK, man. We all know you're a real Caveman...

[SEB]

When enough 'people' like him get together they allow the government to do just that.




I speak my mind in person, I have no fear. Lemme guess, next you will be calling me out.. I guess I need to keep my rifle at home, huh?




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Stevo

Stevo I have know you on here for years. No not going to call you out. Im little old to be doing that shit. But im not spinless! Just being a father has softened me up

[Rick Modena]

Dont arm-bear me

lol!

[SEB]

Dont arm-bear me, Seb, but you're a liberal and you dont even know it!

Im really not LOL! I am a conservative. Hell I don't think I could be a liberal and be a member on this board. I wouldn't make it

[SEB]

I covered that, emotions are items used by women and men that intend to go to jail.

No shame in my game! I got no problem saying I have emotion. Already spent 2 years there 20 years ago and haven't been back since. So that thought doesn't apply to me