Which is faster on the track. Z06 or GT-R

[Mach1]

In the calculations for how a tire grips the road nowhere in the equation does the size of the tire matter. The CF is all that matters and some racing tires have a CF that is higher then 1.

Any links on this?
CF=Coefficient of Friction?
Grips laterally or longitudinally?

[Ruffdaddy]

In the calculations for how a tire grips the road nowhere in the equation does the size of the tire matter. The CF is all that matters and some racing tires have a CF that is higher then 1.

Youre a dumbass. The ability to withstand shear matters or youre just losing rubber to sliding/wheel spin. Wider tires can withstand higher shear forces.

And the GT-R is also AWD...that plays a huge role in getting out of a turn faster than RWD.

[CexMashean]

nowhere in the equation does the size of the tire matter.

Shut the fuck up.

[sdun]

It would be interesting to strap both cars to a dyno for a last test.

[Rreemo]

I don't really care now....they totally lost me at yellow.

[svauto-erotic855]

Any links on this?
CF=Coefficient of Friction?
Grips laterally or longitudinally?

Here is one but there are many others.

http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Tribology/co_of_frict.htm

Yes; CF is Coefficient of Friction.

Both.

Youre a dumbass. The ability to withstand shear matters or youre just losing rubber to sliding/wheel spin. Wider tires can withstand higher shear forces.

Believe what you want but the only thing that matters if the CF. Tire manufactures have a 3d graph that shows each hi po tires abilities for every size but good luck getting it out of them unless you are an OE talking about using a particular tire on a production car.

FYI: what you are describing is just a higher CF. If you do not believe me try doing an equation that has the tire being 1 mile wide but having a CF of zero.

[slowturbocar]

Let's put one of the C7R team drivers behind the wheel of the Z06 and run them again. I bet the outcome would be very different.

The GT-R is an awesome car, but I'd bet the Stig would be faster in lots of other cars some that cost less depending a lot on tires and the racetrack chosen. At a tight slower speed track the GT-R will have the edge. On a bigger higher speed course with larger radius turns, I'd take the Z06.

Most Corvette fag boys just can't stand to loose any comparison, deal with it son!

[svauto-erotic855]

Most Corvette fag boys just can't stand to loose any comparison, deal with it son!

That sounds like all of the Supra owners that I have raced and beaten.

[Gasser64]

Most Corvette fag boys just can't stand to loose any comparison, deal with it son!

Eh, they need to visit youtube a little more often. Motortrend and car and driver say lots of cars walk all over the z06, here in the last 5 years. Its just a vette, price point should tell em right about where its at. I'm certainly not the slightest bit impressed with my boss's z06. My initial thoughts were "... that's it?" Guess I was expecting more.

[Tremor14]

says the guy with a 1994 mustang GT- stock, and a 1987 C10 = stock.

yeah thats it; dick bag.

[Ruffdaddy]

Here is one but there are many others.

http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Tribology/co_of_frict.htm

Yes; CF is Coefficient of Friction.

Both.




Believe what you want but the only thing that matters if the CF. Tire manufactures have a 3d graph that shows each hi po tires abilities for every size but good luck getting it out of them unless you are an OE talking about using a particular tire on a production car.

FYI: what you are describing is just a higher CF. If you do not believe me try doing an equation that has the tire being 1 mile wide but having a CF of zero.

Trust me...i know waaaaayy more about this than you. Ive done a lot of work around what you call CF and know 100% that the materials ability to support shear is what matters. That is not a belief its an engineering fact.

I am not deacribing a higher "CF" at all. Im describing a higher contact area.

You are literally so far off on this one that i dont even know where to start, and am sure its pointless to try.

[Ruffdaddy]

Let me also add that "CF" is equally dependent on the road surface. A race track will not have the same "CF" as concrete even with the same tire.

Actually so many other factors go into the ability for a tire to grip that again, its pointless to try explaining to someone with such a simplistic understanding.

[svauto-erotic855]

Actually so many other factors go into the ability for a tire to grip that again, its pointless to try explaining to someone with such a simplistic understanding.

And at the end of what ever you say about it what you are describing is the tires CF. That is the only number that counts.

[svauto-erotic855]

I am not deacribing a higher "CF" at all. Im describing a higher contact area.

Ok genius; why don't you explain how a tires CF or anythings CF is calculated? I am talking about the entire object; not just the calculation of 1 square MM of it surface area.

[SS Junk]

I sense a google war about to commence!