Lowdown on Off-road parks

[Chili]

Dropped the Jeep off at the transmission shop today, hopefully it will be ready tomorrow but may be Wed.

And I'm sitting here watching stupid Jeep videos thinking about keeping it after all, lol. I mean, we already have a Moab tripped planned in less than 2 months and I won't have a 4 runner ready for the same trails by then.. That's how they get so many suckers to keep buying these damn things.

[bcoop]

See previous posts by myself and jluv about the ko2s on a full size, you may like the g2s better.

I thought they were great, fwiw. Would definitely purchase again. Back before I bought the KO2 everyone was complaining about the tread life of the Nittos due to the softer compound. Who knows.

[bcoop]

Discount doesn't seem to carry the Toyo RT.s just the AT II, but I'd probably not need the extra aggressive tread pattern difference between the 2.

Call my buddy Jeff @ Dallas Off Road, he should be able to get them. They were on like a 6 month back rider when I found a new set on eBay and snagged them up.

[yellowstang]

I've got the Toyo Open Country RT on my white truck, and love them. Pics on FB, Rob. I had the BFG AT NK2's on my red truck, and loved those too. I put 50k miles on them and they still had probably 40-50% tread left when I traded it in. The silver truck (2wd) will likely get a set of KO2s when I get it back.

Discount doesn't seem to carry the Toyo RT.s just the AT II, but I'd probably not need the extra aggressive tread pattern difference between the 2.

[lowthreeohz]

I've got the Toyo Open Country RT on my white truck, and love them. Pics on FB, Rob. I had the BFG AT NK2's on my red truck, and loved those too. I put 50k miles on them and they still had probably 40-50% tread left when I traded it in. The silver truck (2wd) will likely get a set of KO2s when I get it back.

See previous posts by myself and jluv about the ko2s on a full size, you may like the g2s better.

[bcoop]

An MT is overkill if you don’t off-road much.

Toyo makes an RT that’s in between the two, just like the Nitto Ridge Grappler. I haven’t run either, but I wouldnt hesitate to do so, based on my experience with the ATs and the MTs from both. Same parent company, by the way.

Between the two ATs, I like the Toyo better. The Nitto Terra Grappler is slightly softer and slightly less aggressive than the Toyo AT. That makes it quieter and smoother, but the Toyo is not noticeably rough or loud. I think the Toyo will last a little longer, and I believe it’s a little better off road and in snow. But the difference isn’t huge.

Moral of the story is that you can’t go wrong with Toyo or Nitto. You just have to decide which tier to go with. In my opinion, if you are 90% on road and 10% off road, the AT/Terra is good. If you’re 75/25, go with the RT/Ridge. Anything more off road than that, the MT/Trail is worth it.

I've got the Toyo Open Country RT on my white truck, and love them. Pics on FB, Rob. I had the BFG AT NK2's on my red truck, and loved those too. I put 50k miles on them and they still had probably 40-50% tread left when I traded it in. The silver truck (2wd) will likely get a set of KO2s when I get it back.

[Chili]

4runner for a daily and JK for trail rig?

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Nah, but will am looking at doing the TRD Pro and keeping it mostly stock. Just building it out for camping and reliability. Eventually doing bumpers for clearance, swing out and winch, and sliders. My focus is supposed to be going into a multi year van build. Starting with camping build out then 4x4 conversion.

[jluv]

Thanks Jared, I've got a lot to learn about this off road shit! Probably will be 90/10, no more than 80/20 at the most. Sounds like Toyo AT is it! Still cheapest tire I've purchased since the 1st Stang I got in 1994! Those were always expensive.

I think you’ll be super happy with that tire. Make sure to go LT and not P. I’d do D rated. E rated if you’re gonna carry a bunch of weight or just want overkill on strength, but D will be plenty, and will ride better.

[yellowstang]

An MT is overkill if you don’t off-road much.

Toyo makes an RT that’s in between the two, just like the Nitto Ridge Grappler. I haven’t run either, but I wouldnt hesitate to do so, based on my experience with the ATs and the MTs from both. Same parent company, by the way.

Between the two ATs, I like the Toyo better. The Nitto Terra Grappler is slightly softer and slightly less aggressive than the Toyo AT. That makes it quieter and smoother, but the Toyo is not noticeably rough or loud. I think the Toyo will last a little longer, and I believe it’s a little better off road and in snow. But the difference isn’t huge.

Moral of the story is that you can’t go wrong with Toyo or Nitto. You just have to decide which tier to go with. In my opinion, if you are 90% on road and 10% off road, the AT/Terra is good. If you’re 75/25, go with the RT/Ridge. Anything more off road than that, the MT/Trail is worth it.

Thanks Jared, I've got a lot to learn about this off road shit! Probably will be 90/10, no more than 80/20 at the most. Sounds like Toyo AT is it! Still cheapest tire I've purchased since the 1st Stang I got in 1994! Those were always expensive.

[jluv]

Loved the vid's, Jose!

Man, I can't tell which Nitto Discount has I like better, Terra Grappler G2 or Ridge Grappler. Price is pretty close, $235 or $263
The Terra Grappler comes with a 50K mile warranty tho, the Ridge has N/A
Sticking with the stock size, I'll never get crazy into off roading. LT275 /65 R18

The Toyo OPEN COUNTRY M/T has no rating/reviews, but looks aggressive. Also $318 each.
The Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T II looks good too at $273 each, but again, no rating/reviews 50K warranty

An MT is overkill if you don’t off-road much.

Toyo makes an RT that’s in between the two, just like the Nitto Ridge Grappler. I haven’t run either, but I wouldnt hesitate to do so, based on my experience with the ATs and the MTs from both. Same parent company, by the way.

Between the two ATs, I like the Toyo better. The Nitto Terra Grappler is slightly softer and slightly less aggressive than the Toyo AT. That makes it quieter and smoother, but the Toyo is not noticeably rough or loud. I think the Toyo will last a little longer, and I believe it’s a little better off road and in snow. But the difference isn’t huge.

Moral of the story is that you can’t go wrong with Toyo or Nitto. You just have to decide which tier to go with. In my opinion, if you are 90% on road and 10% off road, the AT/Terra is good. If you’re 75/25, go with the RT/Ridge. Anything more off road than that, the MT/Trail is worth it.

[yellowstang]

Loved the vid's, Jose!

Man, I can't tell which Nitto Discount has I like better, Terra Grappler G2 or Ridge Grappler. Price is pretty close, $235 or $263
The Terra Grappler comes with a 50K mile warranty tho, the Ridge has N/A
Sticking with the stock size, I'll never get crazy into off roading. LT275 /65 R18

The Toyo OPEN COUNTRY M/T has no rating/reviews, but looks aggressive. Also $318 each.
The Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T II looks good too at $273 each, but again, no rating/reviews 50K warranty

[lowthreeohz]

Seconded!



From what I can gather on the FB pages, the Jeep and 4Runner guys love the KO2s, but a lot of the fullsize guys say they don’t last worth a shit on the heavier trucks.

Which Grapplers do you have? Terra, Trail, Ridge? We have Terra Grapplers (AT) on the Expedition. They are okay. Not very aggressive, which is fine for that vehicle. I ran a set of Trail Grapplers (MT) on my truck for a while, but they wore quicker than I would like. The Ridge Grapplers are in between an AT and a MT, and would probably be awesome on your truck, Rob.

Sorry, terra grapplers. Now that you mention it, i seem to recall reading the same about the ko2s.

I loved the toyo open countrys i had on the silver dodge, but good god they were pricey to replace with as much driving as i was doing. Lasted great and wore well though, never had a problem with them.

[Jose]

I have a couple more videos I need to upload but I won't get around to it till later. Anyway just wanted to share a few videos from last weekend at Northwest OHV.

Rock Hit. Around the :40 second mark, you will see the FJ in front of me hit the rock that I eventually dragged alongside my truck.



Geoff stuck for a sec.



Rock Garden

[Jose]

I think the ko2s get super loud.. ive got 40k on my nitto grappler g2s and they have been a great tire and make minimal noise. Trade some offroad capability for road worthiness and i think the 97% time you spend on the road will be a lot more pleasant.

Nitto Terra Grappler G2's are what I have. I've been pretty happy with them for what I drive with the occasional off roading. Couple of trips to New Mexico and a couple to Colorado and no complaints. Some high speed highway runs at 90 or so, mud, sand. So far, so good.

[Jose]

Got the new whip back today with a few extra goodies at it.

Now I just need to break away some Saturdays to have fun.


David

Nice ride man. I just got back from the San Antonio area and driving down 281, I was rolling alongside an FJ for a couple of hours. I've always liked the look of them (except for the blind spot it has) but I really got a chance to see one rolling down the highway for an extended period of time.