Personal best on bench last night

[Big A]

No point in starving yourself if you don't have to, but also no need to over eat.
Just need to figure out your metabolism and what it requires, as everyone's different.
Trial and error

This. Though people like to err on the high-side so that they can eat more, and then wonder why they are "starving themselves" but aren't losing weight.

The key is to be realistic about it all, and a beginner shouldn't look at your 1k calorie workout, and formulate their diet around that, assuming that they will actually burn even half of that. They will end up gaining weight without a clue why, thinking that their diet math is completely sound.

l'll say again, it's best for a beginner formulate a low baseline, and adjust up from there. We all like to get to eat a little more than having to eat a little less.

[stangin4lyfe]

Right, and in my experience weight training doesn't burn near the calories that guys want to think it does. I find it best to start low, and work up from there. At one point I was eating about 1500 calories a day at a lean 200lbs, and maintained this for about 2-3 months, and trained as usual. I was by no means famished by the end of the 2 months, and though I had lost a little strength, it was measured in reps, and not pounds.

Currently I am eating about 2000 calories a day, lifting heavy, and doing 20 minutes of cardio per day, and I rarely get hungry. Start low, and adjust according to your goals and progress at a given intake.

On the other hand, I can eat 6000+ calories a day and burn 1000+ calories with weight training alone.
Intensity and very little rest time can really help that number go way up(keeping the heart rate elevated for the duration).
No point in starving yourself if you don't have to, but also no need to over eat.
Just need to figure out your metabolism and what it requires, as everyone's different.
Trial and error

[Big A]

BMR does not account for any activity IIRC. It's the energy you'd require to lay in bed all day.

Right, and in my experience weight training doesn't burn near the calories that guys want to think it does. I find it best to start low, and work up from there. At one point I was eating about 1500 calories a day at a lean 200lbs, and maintained this for about 2-3 months, and trained as usual. I was by no means famished by the end of the 2 months, and though I had lost a little strength, it was measured in reps, and not pounds.

Currently I am eating about 2000 calories a day, lifting heavy, and doing 20 minutes of cardio per day, and I rarely get hungry. Start low, and adjust according to your goals and progress at a given intake.

[Shorty]

Does that calorie intake include lifting?

BMR does not account for any activity IIRC. It's the energy you'd require to lay in bed all day.

[SS Junk]

That's not low for someone with 185ish lbs of lean mass, his BMR is around 2,000-2,100 calories a day, and needs a couple hundred calorie deficit.

Does that calorie intake include lifting?

[Big A]

That seems really low, as in your body not being able to sustain itself/eating muscle kind of low. Especially if you're lifting.

That's not low for someone with 185ish lbs of lean mass, his BMR is around 2,000-2,100 calories a day, and needs a couple hundred calorie deficit.

[SS Junk]

which is usually 8 chicfila spicy chicken sandwiches.

Geez... I thought I was putting it away with eating one sandwhich and a 12 piece nuggets.

Trying to lose 35 to 40 more. I'm trying to stay in the 1800 to 2000 calories a day.

That seems really low, as in your body not being able to sustain itself/eating muscle kind of low. Especially if you're lifting.

[blownaltered]

You just need to re-train your mind into what "good" food tastes like.
All my meals are focused on taste along with nutrition in mind.
I eat out maybe 1 of 25 meals and that one meal will be my "cheat" meal, which is usually 8 chicfila spicy chicken sandwiches.




No problem man. I like helping people no matter how far along they are in meeting their goals.



Gotta plan ahead to succeed.

This is my problem right now. I don't prepare my meals in advance so I end up at chipotle or dickeys to eat chicken. I don't get sour cream or anything but it would be better to prepare at home. I'm trying to lose weight and keep the muscle I have or gain a little (which I know isn't likely while cutting ). I just started working out again about 2 months ago and I'm down about 15lbs now. Trying to lose 35 to 40 more. I'm trying to stay in the 1800 to 2000 calories a day. Any advise on meals and amount of protein. I'm 226lbs at the moment. Thanks in advance

[Shorty]

Doing meal prep and making sure all my breakfasts, lunches, and dinners are covered during the week keeps me from getting fast food or eating junk during the week. I will usually have a huge cheat meal on Saturday afternoon and might eat another shitty meal Sunday. Forcing yourself to eat clean all week makes the unhealthy crap taste that much better when you do eat it.

[Big A]

The amount you eat still amazes me


I also have a new problem with sweet tea

Up to 3 chipotle burritos w/extra chicken now.
It's crazy because I am still sooo lean, but it truthfully all comes down to consistency, intensity, and diet.

Nothing at all wrong with tea in moderation, just kick the sweet part.

You also have to look at the volume of healthy food versus, how easily it is to pack calories into an unhealthy package. 500 calories of chicken, rice, and veggies is a mound of food, whereas a $.99 cheese burger is gone in two bites, half of which is saturated fat.

I swear that they put the same extra chemicals that are in in cigarettes into fast food, because I went YEARS not even craving it, and then after a few "quick" breakfasts and lunches I was hooked into a daily habit. The good thing is now that my body's flushed of all that crap, and my mind is on track, I don't even notice the restaurants that I used to dine at daily.

[stangin4lyfe]

What's the point in drinking tea if i kick the sweet part?? lol

I use sweet 'n low at work if i get tea from up here. Don't know if that makes it any better or not

I sometimes drink it for the taste or even a caffine "buzz" since I never consume any.

No, you should try using a small amount of sugar instead. I am not into artifical foods. Kicked them years ago.

[BERT]

Up to 3 chipotle burritos w/extra chicken now.
It's crazy because I am still sooo lean, but it truthfully all comes down to consistency, intensity, and diet.

Nothing at all wrong with tea in moderation, just kick the sweet part.

What's the point in drinking tea if i kick the sweet part?? lol

I use sweet 'n low at work if i get tea from up here. Don't know if that makes it any better or not

[stangin4lyfe]

The amount you eat still amazes me


I also have a new problem with sweet tea

Up to 3 chipotle burritos w/extra chicken now.
It's crazy because I am still sooo lean, but it truthfully all comes down to consistency, intensity, and diet.

Nothing at all wrong with tea in moderation, just kick the sweet part.

[BERT]

You just need to re-train your mind into what "good" food tastes like.
All my meals are focused on taste along with nutrition in mind.
I eat out maybe 1 of 25 meals and that one meal will be my "cheat" meal, which is usually 8 chicfila spicy chicken sandwiches.




No problem man. I like helping people no matter how far along they are in meeting their goals.



Gotta plan ahead to succeed.

The amount you eat still amazes me


I also have a new problem with sweet tea

[stangin4lyfe]

At this stage in life being able to wear my suit pants again is what counts. Why does food have to taste so good?!

You just need to re-train your mind into what "good" food tastes like.
All my meals are focused on taste along with nutrition in mind.
I eat out maybe 1 of 25 meals and that one meal will be my "cheat" meal, which is usually 8 chicfila spicy chicken sandwiches.

I wasn't trying to be mean. I know you're being supportive and I appreciate it. Trust me lol

No problem man. I like helping people no matter how far along they are in meeting their goals.

I've never been a fried chicken fan, Carls Jr. is primarily to blame for my paunch. I didn't eat McDonalds for almost all of my adult life, but once I tried a McGriddle for breakfast about a year ago, it was all over. Crack cocaine could take notes on how to be more addictive.


If you can't tell, I haven't eaten breakfast yet...

Gotta plan ahead to succeed.