Pre workout: Jack3d

[Jonny00GT]

Yeah, if you're talking you ain't running hard enough. Candi and I are smokers, so we ain't talking to no one!

Took a half scoop of your Assault or Jack3d?

Depends on the goal. If you can carry on a conversation without huffing and puffing too bad, that puts you in the perfect fat burning zone, as I understand it. It was also more of a recovery run for me and her first time to run that far without stopping, ever. I was in it for her. True, I do run a lot faster when it's just me(as I had Wed night), but beyond wanting to get faster in the 5K, when we start doing 10k on up to marathon, my goal is to complete it injury free and have fun.

I don't have any Jack3d.

-Jonny

[ceyko]

The wife and I took half a scoop before our run this morning. Seemed to really help! The 4 miles seemed like a nice easy jog and over too quickly. I felt like I could have run twice as far if not more and Trisa said she could have kept going. We were able to talk the whole run, too. I'm definitely going to take a scoop before our run on Saturday!
-Jonny

Yeah, if you're talking you ain't running hard enough. Candi and I are smokers, so we ain't talking to no one!

Took a half scoop of your Assault or Jack3d?

[Jonny00GT]

The wife and I took half a scoop before our run this morning. Seemed to really help! The 4 miles seemed like a nice easy jog and over too quickly. I felt like I could have run twice as far if not more and Trisa said she could have kept going. We were able to talk the whole run, too. I'm definitely going to take a scoop before our run on Saturday!
-Jonny

[Jonny00GT]

So this: http://store.lockoutforums.com/index...9v7ttqeh2np2q5 is 40mg, meaning 2 would be 5mg more than Muscle Marinade, but I'd get 100 tablests for about half the price? Why isn't this a more popular method? Is there something missing that's in the pre-workouts that improves workout performance, recovery, etc?

Thanks, Greg!

[GRAYHORSE]

Cool...wonder how much is the equivelent of one scoop of Assault.

Chris, did you pick up your packet for the run on Sat yet? The light up arm bands are pretty cool and the shirts are black! This is gonna look crazy!

-Jonny

PreWO's have about 25mg, some 50mg.

Muscle Marinade, MaximazeV2 and Noxipro have around 75mg!

We sell Pure DMAA by Professional Supplements that's a good product.

[Jonny00GT]

Na, that's the wife's job. She likes the packets though, so I'm sure she won't forget. If she shows up with a black eye, you know she forgot. (don't tell her I said that)

LOL!!! If she has 2 black eyes, you told her twice? LOL!! You're not right!

-Jonny

[ceyko]

Cool...wonder how much is the equivelent of one scoop of Assault.

Chris, did you pick up your packet for the run on Sat yet? The light up arm bands are pretty cool and the shirts are black! This is gonna look crazy!

-Jonny

Na, that's the wife's job. She likes the packets though, so I'm sure she won't forget. If she shows up with a black eye, you know she forgot. (don't tell her I said that)

[Jonny00GT]

Looks like it comes in pills...

http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&so...w=1680&bih=949

Cool...wonder how much is the equivelent of one scoop of Assault.

Chris, did you pick up your packet for the run on Sat yet? The light up arm bands are pretty cool and the shirts are black! This is gonna look crazy!

-Jonny

[ceyko]

Looks like it comes in pills...

http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=1%2C3-dimethylamylamin#q=1,3-dimethylamylamin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=shop&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=71d5c48b7cefe72f&biw=1680&bih=949

[Jonny00GT]

Tingle is from Beta Alinine and doesnt mean one is stronger. 3 scoops of jacked will have more stims than Assault.

Thats all most people use to judge how good a pre-wrokout is. Should just by a bottle of straight 1,3 Dymeth. and save the money for those that just want a good stim effect.

What's that taste like?(1,3 Dymeth)
What's the cost for how many servings?

-Jonny

[GRAYHORSE]

I'd guess that 1 scoop of Assault is close to 3 scoops of Jack3d, strictly based on the amount of tingle, so you may want to start with half a scoop of that and see where it puts you when you switch.

Let me know if you want me to bring some to the race for you to try.

-Jonny

Tingle is from Beta Alinine and doesnt mean one is stronger. 3 scoops of jacked will have more stims than Assault.

Thats all most people use to judge how good a pre-wrokout is. Should just by a bottle of straight 1,3 Dymeth. and save the money for those that just want a good stim effect.

[ceyko]

I'd guess that 1 scoop of Assault is close to 3 scoops of Jack3d, strictly based on the amount of tingle, so you may want to start with half a scoop of that and see where it puts you when you switch.

Let me know if you want me to bring some to the race for you to try.

-Jonny

I appreciate the offer, but I think I'll be good. I actually decided to stay with Jack3d for at least one more container until/if I get it maxed out. Then I'll jump to the big boy stuff.

I will say I've upped to 1.5 scoops of Jack3d - and I don't care if it is a placebo effect or not - but I'd say I've increased my gym (lifting) work at least 25%. More sets of heavier weights (While maintaining decent form and all that crap to the best of my knowledge) and even when drenched in sweat I have a little more energy to do something else.

My arms and chest are shaking right now from my workout an hour ago. I like.

Only downside is it seems like a supplement for a poor diet. Although it and some bread saves me 30-45 minutes as opposed to have to cook a breakfast and crap at 4 in the morning and I still have more energy.

[Jonny00GT]

Got what yall were saying. Thought the label said 1, but either way - 1 is good for now, but I suppose it'll become less effective over time. I want to try the Assault next, but may keep Jack3d around for the wife if that is overboard for her.

I'd guess that 1 scoop of Assault is close to 3 scoops of Jack3d, strictly based on the amount of tingle, so you may want to start with half a scoop of that and see where it puts you when you switch.

Let me know if you want me to bring some to the race for you to try.

-Jonny

[ceyko]

Just was at the manufacturer, it should be ready in about ten days. Just hit the tumbler. There was a couple set backs but it's running now along with the D-pol.




I use 3 scoops when using Jack3d. It takes 3 to equal some of the other good pre-workouts.

Got what yall were saying. Thought the label said 1, but either way - 1 is good for now, but I suppose it'll become less effective over time. I want to try the Assault next, but may keep Jack3d around for the wife if that is overboard for her.

[GRAYHORSE]

So you got any of the Cherry Limeade yet?

Just was at the manufacturer, it should be ready in about ten days. Just hit the tumbler. There was a couple set backs but it's running now along with the D-pol.

Strange...we tried the jack3d via GNC - the wife and I needed something NOW and that's all I recognized there. In the future I'm going to order some of that Assault via the guy that has the site here. (thanks for the recommendation Jonny)

Anyway, I noticed zero problems like yall mentioned. I used it for cardio twice now and it just gives a little (well, quite a bit more) extra energy. As dumb as it sounds, breathing was easier. Hell, I ran 7 miles this morning (I can do those, but it was more energetic feeling this morning) and the wife jumped from 3.35 mile runs to a 5.95 mile run this morning.

Are yall taking the more then a scoop? We just do the dinky little scoop and zero problems. Tomorrow will be my first time using it before the gym though, excited to try that.

I use 3 scoops when using Jack3d. It takes 3 to equal some of the other good pre-workouts.