Star Wars: The Old Republic Presales have begun!!

[Lason]

Naaaa I havent gone to any of the guild parties.

[racrguy]

Any of you other nerds go to the launch party? Lason, I saw one of your guildmates (was in a Lancers shirt) there, but every time I made a point to go talk to him I couldn't find 'em.

[Tannerm]

Ya, as its d/l that alert popped up. says theyll be back up 11pm CST. SLOW d/l... Should have figured since its the night of the release. Wife was pissed. I went into the bedroom where she was nursing junior and asked if she was done Xmas shopping. She said no. I told her not to buy anything else. Especially SW. She was like why? I told her cause I bought it already. I think the milk went sour cause Liam started fussing. oops!

[Lason]

You can pre-order still but you cant play. Servers are all down untill release (midnight) for maintnance.

[Tannerm]

Did I read this wrong on swtor.com or is it if I buy it now (origin download) I can play before tomorrow? Im in! Even if I have to wait till tomorro.

[Binky]

Wow was a level grind, i wanted to raid so i got there as fast as i could becausecthats where the only real story was. With TOR, i'm in the story from the start and i love it.

Havent had this much fun in an MMO for a long time.

[f0ur sixer]

With as much time as I have in WoW, I have been really skeptical about just dropping it and putting time into TOR. Then again with D3 around the corner as well I just don't feel like I have the time to put into it right now. Although I would have liked to.

[Taylor]

I miss the days of having time for MMO's.

[Lason]

Damn cock teases, all servers down for maintnance.

[stevo]

Ah nerdrage.... ... resorting to nerdrage are hilarious...

...And yes SWG did suck for stupid people. Then they tried catering to stupid people and ruined it. TOR caters to stupid people from launch.

Ironic.

Can you explain how an online role playing game should be then? What would you change, what is your ideal mmorpg?

Stevo

Can you please respond to this post, or was it included in your 'nerdrage' comment?

Stevo

[Lason]

Oh yeah I forgot about that tree hugger crap. Sitting in cantina's playing instruments, jeez!

[Silverback]

I give up!

Im thinking back but didnt SWG have the same premis? auto aim, 1-10 action keys, no story line, etc, etc. ? I dont remember it playing much different than traditional MMO's.

Only difference is you cant pick out your own curtains on SWTOR.

and you could be a musician or dancer and stand in cantinas all day with scripts running, while people watched you to earn experience.

I played SGW for a while, and honestly I felt like all I did was run around a world and shoot shit to gather mats. That's it. It was a crafter's game hands down. For me I could care less about the crafting in the MMO world, it's not why I play. Typically I'll join a guild where I can just collect mats for others while I'm questing.

[Lason]

I give up!

Im thinking back but didnt SWG have the same premis? auto aim, 1-10 action keys, no story line, etc, etc. ? I dont remember it playing much different than traditional MMO's.

Only difference is you cant pick out your own curtains on SWTOR.

[Silverback]

Ah nerdrage. Always entertaining. TOR was supposed to be new and different. It is not. It's just the newest. Your inability to refute my points on how it is identical and resorting to nerdrage are hilarious.

You could drop these Jedi skins directly into WoW and it would play exactly the same. This was supposed to be something new, it isn't.

Yes all MMOs are copying WoW. It's not impressive.

And yes SWG did suck for stupid people. Then they tried catering to stupid people and ruined it. TOR caters to stupid people from launch.

No it wasn't. It was supposed to take the Mass Effect decision engine and merge it with an MMO, and fill the story with voice acting, like never done before at the level it has. It also was to be the first game/world that effectively recreated the Star Wars world. Galaxies did an alright job with that, but the whole sim cityish create a town, build a house, and decorate it was worthless for me.

No one is copying WoW. WoW was the first majorly accepted and played MMO that copied many of the things Everquest created as far as questing, PVP, and general MMO structure that has been around for years.

The game is an MMO, it fits in the MMO category just where it should. The biggest problem to happen in the MMO world, and I half way agree with you, was the no consequences for death in games. I remember days of playing EQ only to get killed and have to find someone or even a group to help me retrieve my body. Also, it took DAYS to run from place to place which eventually was the downfall of the game for a lot of people. People wasted way more of their lives in EQ than in WoW. The technology shift that put a PC in every home, and kid's possession, is what made WoW as big as it was.

SWTOR doesn't even start in the realm of story, character development, PVP, etc. until after lvl 10-11.

[AnthonyS]

Ah nerdrage. Always entertaining. TOR was supposed to be new and different. It is not. It's just the newest. Your inability to refute my points on how it is identical and resorting to nerdrage are hilarious.

You could drop these Jedi skins directly into WoW and it would play exactly the same. This was supposed to be something new, it isn't.

Yes all MMOs are copying WoW. It's not impressive.

And yes SWG did suck for stupid people. Then they tried catering to stupid people and ruined it. TOR caters to stupid people from launch.