you could get into reloading, and cost those costs more than half.
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i need a lesson one day of the whole process and also which machine is best/easiest.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Postyou could get into reloading, and cost those costs more than half.
the only reason i havent considered it is i have stuck with cheaper ammo types like 9mm, 223 and 45www.hppmotorsports.com
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I reload both .223 and .45 and wouldn't consider them cheaper. It's all relative. Right now I'm reloading 1,000 M855 .223 for $121.38. I can reload 1,000 .45 230gr for $153.00. Meaning the cheapest .45 230gr (that I know of) are 45.99 for a box of 100 at walmart - would be $15.30 reloaded - or 3 times cheaper, same goes for .223. And the savings is substantially more on .308 and more expensive calibers.Originally posted by momo View Posti need a lesson one day of the whole process and also which machine is best/easiest.
the only reason i havent considered it is i have stuck with cheaper ammo types like 9mm, 223 and 45"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I agree, but I wouldn't get into reloading to save money. The problem is because you can make ammo so much cheaper than factory you end up shooting more, but that is still a good thing lol.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostI reload both .223 and .45 and wouldn't consider them cheaper. It's all relative. Right now I'm reloading 1,000 M855 .223 for $121.38. I can reload 1,000 .45 230gr for $153.00. Meaning the cheapest .45 230gr (that I know of) are 45.99 for a box of 100 at walmart - would be $15.30 reloaded - or 3 times cheaper, same goes for .223. And the savings is substantially more on .308 and more expensive calibers.
When it comes to pistol ammo like .45, there is good savings, but you still need to buy in bulk to maximize those savings. 9mm for example, I don't shoot enough to justify buying the dies, bullets in bulk, another type of powder/primers etc.
Rifle ammo is whole different ball game. Even in small quantities there can be large savings in addition to gaining flexibility and accuracy over factory loads. .45-70 for example, a decent factory load can easily cost $2 per round, you can reload that same round for $.60 - $.70.
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I never understand this mentality. It's 3 times cheaper. Wouldn't you shoot more if ammo was 3 times cheaper? Of course you would shoot more, and yes it does save you money. You don't HAVE to shoot more, you can shoot the same amount, and it's 3 times cheaper.Originally posted by jakesford View PostI agree, but I wouldn't get into reloading to save money. The problem is because you can make ammo so much cheaper than factory you end up shooting more, but that is still a good thing lol.
Even buying small quantities is still substantially cheaper.Originally posted by jakesford View PostWhen it comes to pistol ammo like .45, there is good savings, but you still need to buy in bulk to maximize those savings. 9mm for example, I don't shoot enough to justify buying the dies, bullets in bulk, another type of powder/primers etc.
I can produce rifle ammo 3-10 times cheaper than retail on average, and it's higher quality. However rifle ammo is considerably more expensive to reload give it's substantial increase in difficulty.Originally posted by jakesford View PostRifle ammo is whole different ball game. Even in small quantities there can be large savings in addition to gaining flexibility and accuracy over factory loads. .45-70 for example, a decent factory load can easily cost $2 per round, you can reload that same round for $.60 - $.70."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Lol I mostly meant that as a joke, just loading .45 I believe that the reloading equipment cost was recouped in ~2600 rounds. I would have to pull up my excel file.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostI never understand this mentality. It's 3 times cheaper. Wouldn't you shoot more if ammo was 3 times cheaper? Of course you would shoot more, and yes it does save you money. You don't HAVE to shoot more, you can shoot the same amount, and it's 3 times cheaper.
Rifle rounds are where the fun is for me.
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I'd be interested in that to. I think seeing it in person might get me interested in doing it on my own.Originally posted by momo View Posti need a lesson one day of the whole process and also which machine is best/easiest.
the only reason i havent considered it is i have stuck with cheaper ammo types like 9mm, 223 and 45
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you could recoup it in 1000 rounds easily.Originally posted by jakesford View PostLol I mostly meant that as a joke, just loading .45 I believe that the reloading equipment cost was recouped in ~2600 rounds. I would have to pull up my excel file.
Rifle rounds are where the fun is for me."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I'd be happy to show you the process, I reload all the time.Originally posted by Jose View PostI'd be interested in that to. I think seeing it in person might get me interested in doing it on my own."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I personally will do so, if I can ever sell my home and get moved. Don't want to get setup right now for that, but I am collecting brass when I go to the range.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Postyou could get into reloading, and cost those costs more than half.
I had planned to hit you up directly to see your processes when the time comes closer. You seem to really know your stuff around that and it would be valuable to me.
Until then though, I have to keep on the same mundane path of trying to find the cheapest price per round.
Although to me, price is not the only reason to reload.
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It's also another hobby a lot of people don't appreciate until they try it. I enjoy reloading more than shooting, honestly. It combines my favorite things. saving money, shooting, and hoarding.Originally posted by ceyko View PostI personally will do so, if I can ever sell my home and get moved. Don't want to get setup right now for that, but I am collecting brass when I go to the range.
I had planned to hit you up directly to see your processes when the time comes closer. You seem to really know your stuff around that and it would be valuable to me.
Until then though, I have to keep on the same mundane path of trying to find the cheapest price per round.
Although to me, price is not the only reason to reload."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I couldn't agree more with CJ on this statement. I never thought I'd have an interest reloading until I sat down and he showed me what it's all about it. It's definitely a skill that will last you a lifetime.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Posta lot of people don't appreciate until they try it.Originally posted by JesterEvery time you see the fucking guy....show him your fucking dick.. Just whip out your hawg and wiggle it in his direction, put it away, call him a fuckin meatgazer, shoot him the bird and go inside.
He will spend the rest of the day wondering if he is gay.FORGTN SOLD1ER - xbox gamerOriginally posted by DennyWhat the fuck ever, you fucking fragile faggot.
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Yeah and it seems like a set of tasks I'd enjoy. I just want to sit at a bench for a few hours, listening to music making my stockpile of ammo. I also enjoy understanding the technicalities of everything. In the end, I'll enjoy it also because I won't be firing 3-4 rounds and thinking...damn, there is a dollar...rinse repeat. It'll be more like 8-10 rounds. (for 223)Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostIt's also another hobby a lot of people don't appreciate until they try it. I enjoy reloading more than shooting, honestly. It combines my favorite things. saving money, shooting, and hoarding.
It just seems fun and I have buddies who want to as well and I like passing on knowledge too.Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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I don't even think that way anymore. I just squeeze the trigger all day long and only get concerned when I can see the bottom of my ammo can.Originally posted by ceyko View PostYeah and it seems like a set of tasks I'd enjoy. I just want to sit at a bench for a few hours, listening to music making my stockpile of ammo. I also enjoy understanding the technicalities of everything. In the end, I'll enjoy it also because I won't be firing 3-4 rounds and thinking...damn, there is a dollar...rinse repeat. It'll be more like 8-10 rounds. (for 223)
It just seems fun and I have buddies who want to as well and I like passing on knowledge too."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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