Anybody got an AR that they want to get rid of?

[ThreeFingerPete]

http://www.gunlaw.com/index.php?opti...d=40&Itemid=28

A non-listed lower or CA compliant rifle built on one isn't an assault weapon

[Dacotua]

Please provide documentation. I believe that you're very wrong.

You cannot take a pre-ban lower into the state, but the lowers that aren't allowed are very plainly listed. Any lower that is not on that list can be brought into the state in a compliant configuration.

http://www.gunlaw.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=28

California Assault Weapons

Before you move to California you must make certain that you are not planning to import any firearm which may be considered to be Assault Weapon as defined by California law.
Importation of an Assault Weapon is a felony which, upon conviction, shall be punished by four, six or eight years in state prison.
In the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989 (AWCA) the California Legislature defined Assault Weapons by listing specific makes and models. Those named firearms remain Assault Weapons and cannot be lawfully imported into California. Far more firearms were classified as Assault Weapons by certain generic characteristics effective January 1, 2000. To determine if a firearm which you are thinking of importing may be a prohibited Assault Weapon, carefully compare the characteristics of your firearm to the statutory language:
California Penal Code section 12276.1 Assault weapon, further definition.
1. Any semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following;
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,
A thumbhole stock,
A folding or telescoping stock,
A grenade launcher or flare launcher,
A flash suppressor,
A forward pistol grip.
2. A semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
3. A semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
4. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and and one of the following;
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
A second handgrip.
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside the pistol grip.
5. A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
6. A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
7. A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
8. Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Further, California Penal Code § 12278 specifies that any rife that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge is an Assault Weapon, and therefore such rifles are generally not importable.
The California Department of Justice offers their Assault Weapons Identification Guide in the Forms and Publications list at http://ag/ca/gov/firearms/forms/ . However, if you have any concerns that some of the firearms you want to bring into California may be classified as Assault Weapons, consult a qualified California attorney before such firearms are transported to the State.

[CJ]

I still don't know why Colts hold value better, because I've never seen any proof that they are better machined that LMT or any of the high-end stuff.

Are Colt's still made with the non-milspec take down pins and other pieces??

They haven't been made with oversized pins for 40 years.

[wickedblkgt]

I have a tan MagPul S&W M&P I'll let go for $1300 extras included.

[Big A]

People like colts because then it makes them feel that much closer to having a true govt gun. Only thing it comes down to.

I full well realize that, and am not wanting a colt due to superior manufacturing or specs. There are definitely better rifles out there, but when it comes time to sell, a colt will have a better resale and customer base than a custom built rifle.

Realistically, I don't see myself selling whatever I get, but I also don't wan't to toss extra cash away.

I've got a line on a rifle in north TX, and if that doesn't work out in terms of importation, I'll just buy one locally, and deal with the wait period. As much as chicks dig bad boys, I have no desire to have a felony on my record.

[David]

People like colts because then it makes them feel that much closer to having a true govt gun. Only thing it comes down to.

[03trubluGT]

Got a pic to send? My thoughts on the Colt is that it will hold value better than most, and I'm not one to be at the range every weekend, so my AR will be a safe queen of sorts. I do want to shoot and enjoy it, but I'm not looking for a bargain rifle to beat the hell out of, if that makes sense.

I still don't know why Colts hold value better, because I've never seen any proof that they are better machined that LMT or any of the high-end stuff.

Are Colt's still made with the non-milspec take down pins and other pieces??

[ThreeFingerPete]

Pretty sure that is untrue as long as you owned it before the ban.

*Bingo*

Additionally, the burden of proof is on the state to prove that you didn't own it prior to the law.

[Pro88LX]

Think about it, Having a 30 round magazing for a AR-15 in California is a FELONY. A Felony for having a piece of plastic or a boxed shapped piece of metal??? Come on..

Pretty sure that is untrue as long as you owned it before the ban.

[ThreeFingerPete]

It has to be registered and you have to bring it into the state as a "IMPORTER".

I really don't think they'll let you bring a Pre-Ban Colt SP1 into the State. I believe I read that if it wasn't registered in California by X Date, then they would remain illegal. (California has a registry of pre-ban rifles I believe, and if the gun isn't on that registry, then you can't have it in a pre-ban status.).

Think about it, Having a 30 round magazing for a AR-15 in California is a FELONY. A Felony for having a piece of plastic or a boxed shapped piece of metal??? Come on..

Please provide documentation. I believe that you're very wrong.

You cannot take a pre-ban lower into the state, but the lowers that aren't allowed are very plainly listed. Any lower that is not on that list can be brought into the state in a compliant configuration.

[IHaveAMustang]

I love my 32 round 9mm 7" SBR...and I love Texas (most of the time)

[Dacotua]

It's really not that hard, guys. If your rifle isn't specifically listed on the AWB list, then you can bring it into california in a compliant manner.

It has to be registered and you have to bring it into the state as a "IMPORTER".

I really don't think they'll let you bring a Pre-Ban Colt SP1 into the State. I believe I read that if it wasn't registered in California by X Date, then they would remain illegal. (California has a registry of pre-ban rifles I believe, and if the gun isn't on that registry, then you can't have it in a pre-ban status.).

Think about it, Having a 30 round magazing for a AR-15 in California is a FELONY. A Felony for having a piece of plastic or a boxed shapped piece of metal??? Come on..

[Nash B.]

aaron, i think tony was selling one. shoot him a pm/text.

god bless.

Thanks, but I already sold it.

[Big A]

Yeah that's what I thought. This is why you don't move to California.

Trust me, it wasn't my life goal to "migrate" to CA. The money is good, and the surrounding landscape beats the hell out of flatland Dallas. I can be at the coast (not the gulf) or in the mountains surrounding lake Tahoe in under a 3 hour drive. There is definitely a downside though, taxes and gun laws being two of the biggest, and being 1500 miles away from family and my close friends being #1.

I saw a vid a while back of a guy that could swap "clips" in a bullet button rifle pretty expeditiously, but being that this will be a range gun, it's not a concern of mine. I'm already used to dealing with 10 round "clips" in my Glock and Kimber.


**I know that it is a magazine, the use of "clip" was for CJ's amuzement only.

[Saleen781]

Yeah that's what I thought. This is one a thousand reason why you don't move to California.

Fixed.