Wow...he's lucky it wasn't worse.

[ThreeFingerPete]

My response was directly towards the grip safety of the 1911, my reponse to Adam's comment was also directly towards the grip safety. It's all I need to not carry one (pistol with a grip safety). Both of my CCWs do not have a grip safety and I wouldn't want to carry a CCW that did have a grip safety. There's nothing else to my comment other than that. If all you have for a CCW is a 1911, at least you have a CCW.

Jesus fucking Christ Don. Carry what you want, but this is as stupid of an argument as the "carry without a round in the chamber" discussion.

[Rick Modena]

I carry a G-32 daily and have yet to shoot myself or any kids in the face, by accident of course.

I also have never owned or wanted to own a 1911, but it is because they just don't feel right in my hand and price, especially the Colts. Though I really do like the smaller 1911 type guns, like the STIs...

[CJ]

knees + good hand.

That's even more ridiculous than your first reason.

[DON SVO]

Maybe you should consider carrying a revolver then. You know, in case you're shot in the hand and have to clear a jam - how are you going to rack the slide with a hole in your hand?

knees + good hand.

You're really reaching hard to come up with a reason to not like a 1911. They've been used in combat for decades.

They have! I like 1911s, I just won't carry one. I conceal carry a weapon that's very easy to use in stressful situations, nothing more.

[CJ]

My response was directly towards the grip safety of the 1911, my reponse to Adam's comment was also directly towards the grip safety. It's all I need to not carry one (pistol with a grip safety). Both of my CCWs do not have a grip safety and I wouldn't want to carry a CCW that did have a grip safety. There's nothing else to my comment other than that. If all you have for a CCW is a 1911, at least you have a CCW.

You're really reaching hard to come up with a reason to not like a 1911. They've been used in combat for decades.

[Nash B.]

Maybe you should consider carrying a revolver then. You know, in case you're shot in the hand and have to clear a jam - how are you going to rack the slide with a hole in your hand?

[DON SVO]

The whole idea about not picking a gun because you're shot through the hand is the dumbest shit I've ever heard presented.

This just in - if you're shot in the head your Kahr won't help you either.



If this is the best anti-1911 example you have, then I think everyone can feel safe out there.

My response was directly towards the grip safety of the 1911, my reponse to Adam's comment was also directly towards the grip safety. It's all I need to not carry one (pistol with a grip safety). Both of my CCWs do not have a grip safety and I wouldn't want to carry a CCW that did have a grip safety. There's nothing else to my comment other than that. If all you have for a CCW is a 1911, at least you have a CCW.

[dee]

I carry my 1911 cocked and locked with no uneasy feeling at all.

[CJ]

I was being pretty specific with the hand comment, actually. This AAR:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/988015_My_CCW_Shooting_Encounter_AAR__Sentence_update_on_page_22_Whoooo_Hoooo.html

He was shot through both hands by the perp and had a FTF because he didn't have enough grip pressure to depress the grip safety. Gun was obviously a 1911.

A couple weapons training/tactical shooting instructors in that thread said 25% of police officer gunfights involve hand wounds. LOL, one even mentioned how he uses specific gloves with the SIMfire ammo now because of how much it hurt to get shot in the hands with the stuff... and it happened often. As for a reason I would ASSuME target fixation at close range, i.e. shooting the other guy's gun.

The whole idea about not picking a gun because you're shot through the hand is the dumbest shit I've ever heard presented.

This just in - if you're shot in the head your Kahr won't help you either.



If this is the best anti-1911 example you have, then I think everyone can feel safe out there.

[DON SVO]

Yeah, in fact if I get shot through my hand I'm just going to use my eye-laser-beams. Ultimate CCW. Don, some of the shit you come up with is fucking retarded.

I was being pretty specific with the hand comment, actually. This AAR:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/988015_My_CCW_Shooting_Encounter_AAR__Sentence_update_on_page_22_Whoooo_Hoooo.html

He was shot through both hands by the perp and had a FTF because he didn't have enough grip pressure to depress the grip safety. Gun was obviously a 1911.

A couple weapons training/tactical shooting instructors in that thread said 25% of police officer gunfights involve hand wounds. LOL, one even mentioned how he uses specific gloves with the SIMfire ammo now because of how much it hurt to get shot in the hands with the stuff... and it happened often. As for a reason I would ASSuME target fixation at close range, i.e. shooting the other guy's gun.

[2cammer97]

No...and I'm calling BS with the accidentally. Moron was probably playing with it in his pocket.

Agreed. My friend has an XD .40SC and I dont see how it would "accidentally" fire carrying it in a holster IWB while going for your wallet in your pocket.

Marcus

[GeorgeG.]

I know it's considered a paper weight to carry unchambered, but this is why I've always been hesitant carrying with it loaded...much less with the hammer cocked.

I'll switch between a Bersa .380 and a Kimber UC2. The .380 has a safety lever and the Kimber has the grip safety, but I just can't get comfortable with the possibility of something like this happening...maybe I'm overreacting. I use a inner-pocket sleeve or a side holster so I know my trigger is covered AND for the sleeve, I can't (and wouldn't) fit anything else in that pocket anyway.

[GhostTX]

Wonder what model SA .40? You can't get a XDs to fire without depressing the backstrap safety and the trigger safety can you?

No...and I'm calling BS with the accidentally. Moron was probably playing with it in his pocket.

[ThreeFingerPete]

You should feel uneasy! Too many safeties to remove if draw-and-fire are necessary, and have fun with the grip safety if you take a round through the hand.

Yeah, in fact if I get shot through my hand I'm just going to use my eye-laser-beams. Ultimate CCW. Don, some of the shit you come up with is fucking retarded.

[GrayStangGT]

This is exactly why I've never been comfortable with carrying a gun just loose in my pocket. On a rare occasion I'll just put my LC9 in my pocket, but I move all keys etc to a different pocket and double check the safety is on.