nagant rifle fired 3ft from my head. no ear plugs!

[BMCSean]

That's crazy, I didn't know that. I wore my PVS-14 on one eye, I like not completely blinding myself at night.

Yeah, I didn't always have the option for 14's and it seemed like whenever I got stuck with the 7's I ended up having to use them. It might all be made up, I've never actually researched the claim, but my night vision was worse within 2 years so I tend to believe it.

[CJ]

Both, at different times, but it may have been more due to the sun in the desert, but they would always warn us about using them too much when I was in Korea. Either way I wear sunglasses almost everytime I go outside during the daytime now, polarized lenses all the time otherwise it just hurts. It was like some small percentage for every 15 minutes of continuous use.

That's crazy, I didn't know that. I wore my PVS-14 on one eye, I like not completely blinding myself at night.

[BMCSean]

Were you using a PVS-7, or two PVS-14's? I'm surprised they can do damage to your vision.

Both, at different times, but it may have been more due to the sun in the desert, but they would always warn us about using them too much when I was in Korea. Either way I wear sunglasses almost everytime I go outside during the daytime now, polarized lenses all the time otherwise it just hurts. It was like some small percentage for every 15 minutes of continuous use.

[CJ]

Same thing with vision. There is a formula for damage to your night vision from wearing NVG's too much. I used them a bit when I was in and spent a lot of time in the bright sun in the desert and now my eyes are much more sensitive to light.

Were you using a PVS-7, or two PVS-14's? I'm surprised they can do damage to your vision.

[DallasSleeper]

If your ever in stress situation, i highly doubt youll ever notice.

Good example is hunting situation. I shoot my guns at the range with ear protection, but hunting i do not. Now if i was in some kind of blind i still will.

When that animal comes out i go into go mode. I dont even hear the guns go off.

As someone who has been in a few shootings I can say this is mostly true. With my M4 not only did I never hear it when shooting for real, I also lost total count of how much I had shot. My first firefight I was shocked to see 3 empty magazines at my feet. I do not remember even reloading. I hardly heard it shooting. My second shooting I thought I fired 4 or 5 rounds, I checked my mag when it was done and I was empty.

But I can also say during the first firefight I was less than a foot away from the muzzle of a M2 browning and when he opened fire I thought I was hit in the head. I actually had to reach up and check for blood.

[BMCSean]

That's right, there is a formula for it. It's dB and duration that do damage. 150db monetarily does minimal damage. 140db for 5 seconds does considerably more, etc.

Same thing with vision. There is a formula for damage to your night vision from wearing NVG's too much. I used them a bit when I was in and spent a lot of time in the bright sun in the desert and now my eyes are much more sensitive to light.

[CJ]

As far as I can tell, as long as the noise is not continuous/sustained you semi-recover. Although, I know everything from explosives/gun fire to screaming kids - my hearing is certainly a lot worst than it was 10 years ago.

That's right, there is a formula for it. It's dB and duration that do damage. 150db monetarily does minimal damage. 140db for 5 seconds does considerably more, etc.

[ceyko]

As far as I can tell, as long as the noise is not continuous/sustained you semi-recover. Although, I know everything from explosives/gun fire to screaming kids - my hearing is certainly a lot worst than it was 10 years ago.

[Sleeper]

If your ever in stress situation, i highly doubt youll ever notice.

Good example is hunting situation. I shoot my guns at the range with ear protection, but hunting i do not. Now if i was in some kind of blind i still will.

When that animal comes out i go into go mode. I dont even hear the guns go off.

[CJ]

I had one with a ruger MKII that someone dropped off because they tried to clean it and couldn't put it back together, so I got the gun and a box of parts. I was checking the feeding and chambered a .22LR round (I don't have dummy rounds for .22LR) and it discharged when I chambered the round. Turns out the person who give it to me had put the firing pin spring in wrong and it was held out. If it had a magazine in it the gun would have been full auto, haha. Needless the say the pickles in the fridge had to be replaced.

[IHaveAMustang]

How did this not get commented on? Please do explain, lol.

Eh, I'm sure all of us have done a ND or come close anyways.

I put a hole in a wall and broke a mirror when I didn't clear my weapon once.

Never ever again. If you ever see me at a build party or range in the future, I will check the rifle...then check it again...and maybe 5 minutes later check it again to make sure someone didn't sabotage it!

[motoman]

I've been standing about 20 foot away from a M2A1 .50BMG heavy machinegun without hearing protection when it was firing, wasn't loud at all because of the conical muzzle brake, but the moment the muzzle turned within 180 degrees of me it became thunderous. It's amazing what a muzzle device can do.

That wasn't near as loud as I thought it would be, until it started turning toward us. Fun day.

[CJ]

I've been standing about 20 foot away from a M2A1 .50BMG heavy machinegun without hearing protection when it was firing, wasn't loud at all because of the conical muzzle brake, but the moment the muzzle turned within 180 degrees of me it became thunderous. It's amazing what a muzzle device can do.

[bobs94formula]

The first time I went out to shoot my Nagant, I think it was my M44, I realized I forgot my hearing protection when I got out into the woods to shoot it. I went ahead and shot it anyways, which was stupid because it's pretty darn loud! My ear rang for a while but it went away.

I do always make sure to have the ears with us when my boys and I go shooting so their hearing doesn't get damaged. We have muffs for all of us plus I've got some foam plugs for myself, in case we take someone else with us who doesn't have their own ears.

[slowyellow]

I accidently shot a hole in my roof a few years back.. my ear was ringing for a week

How did this not get commented on? Please do explain, lol.