NFA Forms changes - Proposal Summary

[CJ]

This


Though, you would never be able to purchase an NFA item again unless you want them to tie your file to a set of finger prints and photos

you'd be forced into it when they require you to register your assault rifles.

[Roscoe]

you'd be forced into it when they require you to register your assault rifles.

Do you really think they would be able to support the influx of work if they require all assault type rifles be NFA items?

[David]

So this essentially makes the trust I just bought useless come July. Either way I still have to get fingerprinted, just no CLEO signature and they still have to run my background check which will extend it two months.

The whole purpose of going the trust route was to avoid fingerprints and get a 2 month advantage...yay

There was never any time advantage in submitting a trust over an individual unless you had some odd wait to get a signature.

But this new ruling is pretty funny.

[CJ]

Do you really think they would be able to support the influx of work if they require all assault type rifles be NFA items?

They can't handle the influx of work now. So yes, I think they'll try it.

[Moose242]

There was never any time advantage in submitting a trust over an individual unless you had some odd wait to get a signature.

No signature, which is hard to obtain for some
Reduced wait time
More people could store the NFA stuff
More people could use the trust's collective items

[Roscoe]

They can't handle the influx of work now. So yes, I think they'll try it.

Say I didn't register the lowers I still have, I think it would be at least a decade (maybe 2?) before anyone contacted me about them, if ever...

[IHaveAMustang]

There was never any time advantage in submitting a trust over an individual unless you had some odd wait to get a signature.

But this new ruling is pretty funny.

I thought that you saved time due to them not having to check your finger prints and background.

Also I noticed that the OP said that all people in the trust have to submit fingerprints and photos? So even though my wife hates guns and wont ever shoot any of them, she has to submit her fingerprints and photos because she is in my trust?

[CJ]

Say I didn't register the lowers I still have, I think it would be at least a decade (maybe 2?) before anyone contacted me about them, if ever...

The problem is when you go to shoot them you could get busted.

[CJ]

I thought that you saved time due to them not having to check your finger prints and background.

Also I noticed that the OP said that all people in the trust have to submit fingerprints and photos? So even though my wife hates guns and wont ever shoot any of them, she has to submit her fingerprints and photos because she is in my trust?

You do, the individual option has no advantages, David just loves to nut hug it for some reason.

[Gtracer]

The problem is when you go to shoot them you could get busted.

Or if you ever use them. Basically they would be paper weights and wall hangers

[David]

No signature, which is hard to obtain for some
Reduced wait time
More people could store the NFA stuff
More people could use the trust's collective items

Notice I said wait time, which was minimal. I've seen trusts take longer than individual vice versa. Luck of the draw.

[IHaveAMustang]

Or if you ever use them. Basically they would be paper weights and wall hangers

So, it would take about 6 years to get your "assault rifles" approved by the ATF, since millions upon millions would be submitting their forms.

Would it still be legal to shoot them without NFA paperwork?

[Moose242]

So, it would take about 6 years to get your "assault rifles" approved by the ATF, since millions upon millions would be submitting their forms.

Would it still be legal to shoot them without NFA paperwork?

It is all pointless speculation at this point.

We are commenting about a set of unadopted yet proposed changes to an 80 year old transfer process that may or may not affect a bill that nobody has seen yet because it has not been proposed or even been passed into law.

[Roscoe]

It is all pointless speculation at this point.

We are commenting about a set of unadopted yet proposed changes to an 80 year old transfer process that may or may not affect a bill that nobody has seen yet because it has not been proposed or even been passed into law.

But.... but Piers Morgan said....

[David]

I thought that you saved time due to them not having to check your finger prints and background.

Also I noticed that the OP said that all people in the trust have to submit fingerprints and photos? So even though my wife hates guns and wont ever shoot any of them, she has to submit her fingerprints and photos because she is in my trust?

You get a background check. May not be in depth one, but you get one. Someone tried inserting a felon into a gun trust and had their paperwork denied. Now they also inserted a ton of identifiers into the trust where as some do not. But they do look and analyze them. Not to mention the lawyers that read every one of them.