What's it worth? AK-74

[bigshoe]

They call that bakelite, it's like a polymer fiberglass, pretty damn strong.

Good to know. My brother found one in a house he was cleaning out last week just like it, its marked. 223. Which worked in my. 223 AK.

[CJ]

Good to know. My brother found one in a house he was cleaning out last week just like it, its marked. 223. Which worked in my. 223 AK.

If that's true, and it's really a .223 magazine (marked on the mag itself, not the floor plate), then it's valuable. Those are chinese/norinco .223 bakelites and very rare. Century however put some new followers in some 74 mags and stamped them .223 on the floor plate, and those jam like a son of a bitch.

[bigshoe]

If that's true, and it's really a .223 magazine (marked on the mag itself, not the floor plate), then it's valuable. Those are chinese/norinco .223 bakelites and very rare. Century however put some new followers in some 74 mags and stamped them .223 on the floor plate, and those jam like a son of a bitch.

This one is marked on the floor plate. So its junk?

[bigshoe]

Good to know. My brother found one in a house he was cleaning out last week just like it, its marked. 223. Which worked in my. 223 AK.

Let me rephrase this. It didn't work (I didn't try), it just fit in my Norinco 84.

[CJ]

This one is marked on the floor plate. So its junk?

I don't have enough experience with them to really say that for sure, I've never even seen one myself. I am aware they exist, and also that Century installed some floorplates on 5.45 mags and called them .223 but they jam if you load them past 10 or so rounds. I presume because of the insufficient conical case compared to the mag contour or possibly the OAL since .223 is longer than 5.45. However I would find ".223" as being very suspicious since any military high capacity magazine would not be .223, it would be marked 5.56mm.

I even searched google and couldn't even find a picture of one of the real Chinese .223 bakelites, they are just that rare. 90% chance that's a .223 Century fakelite mag.

[8mpg]

Threadjack...

My cousin said they are TULA unissued Bakelite mags... $65.

[Ruffdaddy]

Bakelite is just a thermosetting plastic, the trade name for phenolic. It's brittle and sub par compared to most modern plastics.

CJ you compare it to fiberglass, are these actually made from material similar to Bakelite sheet that has layers of supportive laminates or fibre fill? I've never touched or sampled a Bakelite mag, and have only seen it used in one modern application.

[CJ]

Bakelite is just a thermosetting plastic, the trade name for phenolic. It's brittle and sub par compared to most modern plastics.

CJ you compare it to fiberglass, are these actually made from material similar to Bakelite sheet that has layers of supportive laminates or fibre fill? I've never touched or sampled a Bakelite mag, and have only seen it used in one modern application.

It's not like your standard bakelite material which cracks like potato chips, it has fibers in it and it's pretty damn resilient, I've banged the shit out of mine, even with hard wear they only show the fibers, I have not seen one crack or break before. It's similar to what HK uses for it's polymer receivers on the UMP and G36.

[01yz2nv]

Threadjack...

My cousin said they are TULA unissued Bakelite mags... $65.

Im out

[Ruffdaddy]

It's not like your standard bakelite material which cracks like potato chips, it has fibers in it and it's pretty damn resilient, I've banged the shit out of mine, even with hard wear they only show the fibers, I have not seen one crack or break before. It's similar to what HK uses for it's polymer receivers on the UMP and G36.

I figured there was no way it was straight molded phenolic. I wonder if they sucked poon in very low temperature.

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Im out

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[bigshoe]

I don't have enough experience with them to really say that for sure, I've never even seen one myself. I am aware they exist, and also that Century installed some floorplates on 5.45 mags and called them .223 but they jam if you load them past 10 or so rounds. I presume because of the insufficient conical case compared to the mag contour or possibly the OAL since .223 is longer than 5.45. However I would find ".223" as being very suspicious since any military high capacity magazine would not be .223, it would be marked 5.56mm.

I even searched google and couldn't even find a picture of one of the real Chinese .223 bakelites, they are just that rare. 90% chance that's a .223 Century fakelite mag.

That makes sense, the ones I have that came with my Norinco 84 are marked 5.56, and the barrel is also. The 5.56 ones I have are metal though. They look like a regular AK Mag without the curve.