.22 wmr or .223 for varmint hunting?

[KCHAR]

They really do different things. I prefer owning a .22lr and a .223, but all the big time varmint hunters are shooting really hot centerfire .17's at 4,000fps+, if you want the Internet kryptonite answer.

How do they differ based on what you said?. 17s?

[KCHAR]

How is the 17 hmr superior to the 22 wmr?

[YALE]

How do they differ based on what you said?. 17s?

The .17's? Centerfire .17's have way more case volume than rimfire .17's. the big thing now is pushing a light hollowpoint bullet with one out to 4000fps or faster, and what it does is make a little hole on one side, then burst in the animal. Hydrostatic shock is off the charts that way. For what it's worth, I am not the world's biggest fan of the concept of HS, but what those fast little bullets do is pretty dramatic. .204 Ruger isn't the worst choice, either.

How is the 17 hmr superior to the 22 wmr?

I'm not a huge fan of either one, frankly.

[Aceman85turbo]

the hogs of east texas would laugh at you and your .22

[YALE]

possums, hogs, coons, jack rabbits, shit, anything that moves at night

I just saw this. That spectrum really requires two different rifles. Theoretically, you'd be ok with a .243, but it'd make working at the fringes a little tough. Hogs would be hard to kill, and you'd waste a lot of rabbit meat. You'd also need to work up two separate loads, with two separate scope settings to really make the most of that caliber. It can be done, but why not a .204 and a 7mm-08? Even rifles need buddies.

[KCHAR]

the hogs of east texas would laugh at you and your .22

small ones, nothing huge, thats why I wanted to know if there was one that I could shoot all the above with, but it doesnt look like it.

90% of the time it is foxes and smaller

[KCHAR]

I just saw this. That spectrum really requires two different rifles. Theoretically, you'd be ok with a .243, but it'd make working at the fringes a little tough. Hogs would be hard to kill, and you'd waste a lot of rabbit meat. You'd also need to work up two separate loads, with two separate scope settings to really make the most of that caliber. It can be done, but why not a .204 and a 7mm-08? Even rifles need buddies.

No rifle is out of consideration, I just want a good varmint gun to go have fun with at night while spotlighting.

[YALE]

No rifle is out of consideration, I just want a good varmint gun to go have fun with at night while spotlighting.

.243 ought to get you there. You could even get a .243AI going, and really zip light bullets at small stuff. Still another order of magnitude is a 6mm based on a bigger case, like a 6mm-284. Boogity, boogity!

[KCHAR]

I just saw this. That spectrum really requires two different rifles. Theoretically, you'd be ok with a .243, but it'd make working at the fringes a little tough. Hogs would be hard to kill, and you'd waste a lot of rabbit meat. You'd also need to work up two separate loads, with two separate scope settings to really make the most of that caliber. It can be done, but why not a .204 and a 7mm-08? Even rifles need buddies.

like these?

http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=420456

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=358764482

[dee]

the hogs of east texas would laugh at you and your .22

You put one in the ear or eye and they won't take a step.

[YALE]

like these?

http://texasguntrader.com/index.php?a=2&b=420456

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=358764482

Hell no, man! Just a plain ol' varmint contour Savage with an internal magazine. You don't need too much else, so don't buy someone else's hotrod project gun.

[Craizie]

I've always liked my .22-250 for smaller game.

[KCHAR]

Hell no, man! Just a plain ol' varmint contour Savage with an internal magazine. You don't need too much else, so don't buy someone else's hotrod project gun.

Could you link me a couple of examples for reference?

[likeitfast55]

Hell no, man! Just a plain ol' varmint contour Savage with an internal magazine. You don't need too much else, so don't buy someone else's hotrod project gun.

Great advise.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=358560391

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=359437347

[KCHAR]

Great advise.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=358560391

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=359437347

Great thanks, that's what I was wanting, something to benchmark off of