I got the glock some competiton

[Cobraman]

Ended up with a glock 19. Selling the glock 23 and m&p

[AnthonyS]

Truth.

Agreed, but the grip angle is still wrong. Every other pistol in the world went with a fairly common angle... one guy went different. If one person disagrees with 100, who is right? What if that person disagrees with millions or even billions? Face it whether or not one can compensate for the awful angle, doesn't make it good or optimal. It sucks ass.

I'm not going to do research on how many misses the LE entities of the world have with Glock pistols, because we all know they miss far more than they hit. They don't carry 1911s, because they want to have 15+ rounds to miss with.

Sgt York killed 25 Germans with a lowly M1917 (5 shot mag) and an M1911 (7 shot mag). They rushed him after he shot 5 rounds from the M1917, that's when Browning's invention came down on the Germans.

Rest assured in another 100 years people will still be using 1911s and AK variants and M2 machine guns. I'm not sure about Glocks or any other polymer pistol. I wouldn't even bet on the AR lasting a 100 years, but it might. I know the 1911 will last 200, and the AK will easily see 170.

So you can compensate for a shitty design... so can lots of other people. That doesn't make it right. A lot of people drove Pintos, Dodge K cars, Chevettes, and Yugos too, that doesn't make them car gurus.

[NTexas_V-Star]

If your a good shooter, it doesn't matter what platform you use. I shoot the same with my 23/M&P/1911. Good shooters learn to adapt and not bitch about the grip angle? Just saying.

Truth.

[Cobraman]

9mm is cheap

[soap]

He offered it up if I'd reload him some 9mm. Iirc soap offered me the same deal

Lol. Offer still stands.

[Cobraman]

Lol

[CJ]

Selling the glock 23 gen4. $450 with three mags. has some holster wear but not terrible.

[Cobraman]

Selling the glock 23 gen4. $450 with three mags. has some holster wear but not terrible.

[Probie]

Hopefully I will be able to get my hands on a VP9 soon.

[Cobraman]

If you don't keep the M&P - I'll take it off your hands

Cool, I'll keep that in mind

[Andy@PrimeTuning]

If you don't keep the M&P - I'll take it off your hands

[Cobraman]

Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. I'm always down to go shoot. I might even be able to teach you a little something, young buck!!!!lol. If you don't mind the drive, my buddy has a range in Forney and we can do whatever. LMK?

I'm in for learnin

[Cobraman]

you want to probe probies butthole, dont you?

He offered it up if I'd reload him some 9mm. Iirc soap offered me the same deal

[dsrtuckteezy]

I've had some time with one and I did not like it at all and neither did probie. The trigger is garbage, the safety needs to go-it finds a way to turn itself on when you don't want it to, very high bore axis compared to the compact makes the recoil snappy and In unison with the trigger that made fast shooting inaccurate and uncontrollable. I know people that like it, but I didn't. Maybe cool as a bigger alternative to an lcp, but to me not effective enough to carry.

you want to probe probies butthole, dont you?

[Cobraman]

the shield?

im picking up one from my buddy for cheap as soon as gets the new one without the safety.

I've had some time with one and I did not like it at all and neither did probie. The trigger is garbage, the safety needs to go-it finds a way to turn itself on when you don't want it to, very high bore axis compared to the compact makes the recoil snappy and In unison with the trigger that made fast shooting inaccurate and uncontrollable. I know people that like it, but I didn't. Maybe cool as a bigger alternative to an lcp, but to me not effective enough to carry.