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Originally posted by Grimpala View PostCut up your DL and let us know how that statute works out for you. That's kind of like the argument that the sonstitution does not allow for a federal income tax. Yeah it may be true, but none of us on this board have the monies to find out and/or prove it.
Originally posted by talisman View PostOh shit, I wish someone would have told me some dude on Youtube can make me impervious to all tickets! BRB, I'm going to go start some fucking mayhem on the FREEway!
Originally posted by Osiris View PostI see.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by idrivea4banger View Posttrust no one.
The truth is out there. Unfortunately so is a lot of inane bullshit, between the way things should be and the way things are.
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Originally posted by Machx2 View PostBrainwashed? Hardly. Marine? Nope. Former military? Yes. Just wondering, what does the marine statement have anything to do with my initial post?
don't get me wrong, i support our troops and proud to have them along with my background. but you have to admit, funny how many armed forces people go into law enforcement
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Originally posted by Osiris View PostSo you're saying that by traveling on a public roadway that every motorist has the "right" to drive as they wish with no regard to state law?
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by forbes View Post
Oh shit, I wish someone would have told me some dude on Youtube can make me impervious to all tickets! BRB, I'm going to go start some fucking mayhem on the FREEway!
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostState law is just a tolerated infringement on the right to drive or travel. After all, the people give the government power. When enough of the people decide the government should have no power, its days are numbered.
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all tickets are invalid
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State law is just a tolerated infringement on the right to drive or travel. After all, the people give the government power. When enough of the people decide the government should have no power, its days are numbered.
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Originally posted by forbes View Postmy ignorance for cut copy paste, that refers to commercial travel in which you receive monies for.. here is the one for public travel
"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.
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"The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the 5th Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.
"Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.
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Every police officer should keep the following U.S. court ruling in mind before issuing citations:
"The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." Miller v. U.S., F.2d 486, 489.
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The city is not prohibiting travel at "will"...it's stopping you for violating the law, a condition of using the roads. Ticketing you and giving you the opportunity to dispute, etc. are all part of the due process conditions you're quoting.
Your quote says that it can't just stop you or impede you for using the roads for no reason. That's correct. However, breaking the law or conditions of using the roads is a different issue alltogether. That's why I said your quote doesn't apply to people that are breaking the law.
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