getting fuel right now, and see emo with 12" soled boots

[BERNIE MOSFET]

those silly juggalos and goths

Not quite in the same category.

[Cooter]

Not quite in the same category.

they are both in the douche category, so...

[Silverback]

Not quite in the same category.

definitely the same category. I've seen Goth folk wearing those types of boots with their Captain Jack Sparrow frilly shirts, and zipper skinny pants.

I've also seen ravers wearing those boots, with their over sized Jnco jeans, candy necklaces, glowsticks, and sweet Paul Okenfold t-shirts.

[Gargamel]

I'm sure their parents are proud....

[SS Junk]

definitely the same category. I've seen Goth folk wearing those types of boots with their Captain Jack Sparrow frilly shirts, and zipper skinny pants.

I've also seen ravers wearing those boots, with their over sized Jnco jeans, candy necklaces, glowsticks, and sweet Paul Okenfold t-shirts.

For being against them you sure are familiar with their fashion. Were YOU the Gothopotamus???

[ELVIS]

early years..... he was wearing that saturday.

god bless.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

they are both in the douche category, so...

You are basing this on...?

definitely the same category. I've seen Goth folk wearing those types of boots with their Captain Jack Sparrow frilly shirts, and zipper skinny pants.

I've also seen ravers wearing those boots, with their over sized Jnco jeans, candy necklaces, glowsticks, and sweet Paul Okenfold t-shirts.

So, the common thread is boots? Is that it?

Juggalos identify with ICP alone, which is not gothic in any way. The two are simply not related.

[Silverback]

early years..... he was wearing that saturday.

god bless.

you said it was our little secret

[ELVIS]

You are basing this on...?




So, the common thread is boots? Is that it?

Juggalos identify with ICP alone, which is not gothic in any way. The two are simply not related.

calm down bro... we aint bashing violent j nor shaggy 2 dope

you said it was our little secret

purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

god bless

[Broncojohnny]

The two are simply not related.

They are related though, they are both equally retarded. Granted, juggalos tend to be inner city shitbags or wanna be inner city shitbags.

[Cooter]

You are basing this on...?

stupid douchebags who classify their selves with names like "jugalos" or "goths"

[DON SVO]

stupid douchebags who classify their selves with names like "jugalos" or "goths"

Stop it, before Anubis goes to cry in the car.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

calm down bro... we aint bashing violent j nor shaggy 2 dope

LMAO! Fair enough.

They are related though, they are both equally retarded. Granted, juggalos tend to be inner city shitbags or wanna be inner city shitbags.

Goths are flighty, and either live in fantasy worlds as often as they can break from reality, putting on this mopey, depressed thing their entire lives or, eventually, generally becoming responsible, contributory members to modern society because they realized withdrawal and rejection of societal norms is folly. Several (not all) are actually very intelligent but deal with the realities of life in unusual ways. Does that make them retarded? Well, yeah I suppose so. Veterans, patriots, and like-minded people to even yourself regarding the direction the country is and has been headed (as evidenced by your contributions to DFWM) also happen to describe themselves as "goth" because they still like the music, or the scene still suits them.

And then there are the shitbag, douche goths that everyone hates. Mincing words, more often than not, they are misattributed emos, rivetheads, or something entirely unto themselves. It's often hard to say because the entire goth/industrial/EBM/techno scene is very incestuous, with many subgenres between them. Goth is just the buzzword we all know.

I agree with your assessment of Juggalos entirely, however.

stupid douchebags who classify their selves with names like "jugalos" or "goths"

I suppose it's moot to discuss in the face of apparent bias, but the goth scene is pretty well dead now, honestly. Especially in the DFW area where it never really took off to begin with. What is ascribed as goth now is not goth as it was. By the time the media and everyone else became aware of the label en masse, the scene had evolved beyond its origins: an evolution of 70s punk rock and counterculture.

Goths used to deny being goth on principal, and the more one denied being goth, the more one was considered goth. Anyone who described themselves as goth, was not. It seems dumb, but the rejection of labels was part of the deal. I suppose goth is largely an umbrella term for an amalgamated waste-bin of people who cannot find some other niche to fit into, or flat rejected. Those that desire to have a label of their own end up taking this admittedly stupid term, else it is applied onto them by others. There are plenty of whiney bitches wearing their "oh-woe-is-me" on their black sleeves. I wish they'd just off themselves as much as anyone else.

The negative stereotypes are why I generally do not discuss my affiliations openly. I like the music and I've met enough really cool, decent, well-grounded people in the scene that I have a favorable opinion of at least some of the people behind the stigma of weird clothing and bad attitudes.

[ceyko]

Well that sucks seeing a dude in those. Sometimes the wife dresses like a warlock (role playing) and has boots like that. Guess we need to find new boots.

[Broncojohnny]

Well that sucks seeing a dude in those. Sometimes the wife dresses like a warlock (role playing) and has boots like that. Guess we need to find new boots.

Pics? Does she attempt to shield herself with magic when the dragon's porridge gun goes off?