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Fullerton PD beat homeless man to death.
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If you are schizorphrenic, you will run for no reason. Period. Does any of that make what happened right, hell no.Originally posted by MutherjuggZ View PostYou nor I will NEVER know because it has escalated to such a degree that it has to be handled differently now than if they had just arrested the guy peacefully.
From what I've read, which is all spoon fed media stuff, they got a call that someone was breaking into cars... they show up and see him sitting nearby and approach him for questioning at which point he took off running as they were approaching.... which spurred a short foot chase that ended with him on the ground and quickly getting his face smashed into a curb. Backup arrived and threw in a few kicks/punches/tazes for good measure since he was fighting back. I personally think at that point he was fighting for his life and when they couldn't get him to be still (aka quit fighting for his life) they kept on until he quit moving ... then the guy died.
I honestly think he was guilty of SOMETHING or he wouldn't have tried to run. ALL of that, however, went out the door the very minute the guilty actions of the officers outweighed his POSSIBLE guilty actions of being in possession of stolen property and trying to out run the police.
Now let me ask this....
If he was 100000% guilty of breaking into cars, trying to evade police, and resist arrest... does that make this sort of this okay? When is enough ... ENOUGH? What are the rules on this sort of thing... do they have a "only beat them half to death" sort of clause in employee handbooks?
A scumbag cop won't agree to take a ride in.Originally posted by stevo View PostDoes anyone actually think a scumbag cop will be a scumbag with someone doing a ride-a-long?
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CHL. Get one. Being a police officer and working with ALL people is what it is about. Do you think gynocologists only have supermodels for patients?Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostI walk in public unarmed with the same "criminals" you dumbass. I'm not a cop because I don't want to work with retards or mediocre pay.
Still lmao about not having the nerve...
You are right. There are some cops that wait out hot calls. Those are the ones you don't want for back up and everyone knows who they are.Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostReally? I'm pretty sure cops duck calls that could endanger their lives from time to time, which is why you have response times of 30 minutes plus for robberies. You want to talk about a scary job? Try walking through a city where you're not sure if there are IED's, VED's, and EVERYONE in the city wants you dead. That's danger. Carrying a weapon on your hip, with reinforcement a call away, in an air conditioned squad car, putting ground up sheet rock in cars or planting weapons or other shit in someone's vehicle you don't like is a coward and those bastards should be publicly hung to make a point.
You put on that badge, you put yourself at a station of authority. You violate that authority and you should pay FAR harder than anyone else. And they don't like the criticism of us little people? Pick a job where they aren't arresting people and destroying their lives because they feel like it.
You talk like all 800,000 US LEOs plant evidence. That's a mighty broad brush you are using there, but I agree that the bad ones should be made an example of.
Bill, if you had half a brain you'd realize that I don't like dirty/bad policing just as much as the most avid FTP'er here, but you're not active enough to see that.Originally posted by WildBill View PostWell.........you're prolly one of the good cops.
Would you beat someone like that homeless guy got beat?
The difference between you and 03trubluGT is that you don't always jump on the cop's side. No matter what, 03trubluGT will defend a cop...........dirty or not,..........with all the info or not.
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I have a LT that won't make the scene of a violent crime unless a SGT first makes the scene.Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostMatt, I appreciate you agreeing about the cops that wait out calls. No, not all 800,000 LEOS are bad, but a portion are and they are protected by the majority.
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I had an LT who left us in a firefight and took our ammo and MRE's and water. He hid out until our CO and XO went hunting for him AFTER the fight. So tell me, what happens to this LT? How do you fix that?Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostI have a LT that won't make the scene of a violent crime unless a SGT first makes the scene.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostHe took off to another part of the city while the firefight happened. I told him if I catch him out of uniform his ass is mine. He was cocky until he realized I no longer wear the uniform and can't be intimidated by rank
Cowards will always show their true colors.
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Our guys told him when we returned to reload and refit "You better not close your eyes tonight sir." He was the kind of dick who caught us smoking after a field problem at Hood and walked over to us and said "Gas, gas, gas." and walked off. That was his favorite thing to do. Mopp4 in over 100 degree heat when our water buffalo was empty. He did it one time and the Sgt Major had to go to Mopp4 as well. That lasted 10 minutes when the SM discovered the LT was down to his brown t shirt.
He also had a personal problem with me and would take me on 8 mile runs the day before a PT test so I'd fail them.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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Very very true. I fully agree, and would change my thoughts if an officer was fully punished for their terrible actions.Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostThe title should be corrected.
The Fullerton PD didn't beat this guy to death. Five or six of its shitbag officers did.
It's not fair to rate the whole department on the actions of a few.
Let's just hope justice runs its course.
I have been harassed by many officers...probably for being young. Do you not think a chl will make me even more succept to abuse?
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And I hope they are punished. They made the choice to do what they did, and those that were there had the choice to stop them.Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostVery very true. I fully agree, and would change my thoughts if an officer was fully punished for their terrible actions.
I have been harassed by many officers...probably for being young. Do you not think a chl will make me even more succept to abuse?
Most officers do treat CHL'ers differently. CHL'ers have passed a background, have shown initiative to take a class, and to assume the responsibilty of carry.
On the other hand, you have a small minority of liberal officers who think that no one should have a gun but officers.
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