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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    It hasn't even started yet. The EPA is about to fuck everyone in the ass on their electric bill. I have seen some articles saying that we will have rolling power outages next year because our power plants are going to be illegal.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-upgrades.html
    Shit!

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by kingjason View Post
    Everyone is being nickle and dimed to death. Not only are trips to the grocery story higher, cable/internet is inching higher, and fing sprint is going to raise all their rates a lot come December. Hell all we need is gas to hit 5 bucks a gallon again and I say full blown recession worse then we have ever seen.

    I know I am solid lower middle class while the wifey is finishing school and I live right. I am being screwd left and right by all these damn programs and crap designed to help the poor suffering people out that have zero common sense when it comes to dealing with money. Cant pay your mortgage, hell we will reduce it. Cant afford cell phones, how about a free one. Drive an old ass car, hey we can give you money for that to get a new one. Last but least, overdraft your bank account often? Well hell we will make sure the banks cant get you anymore for that and stick it to everyone else that has been living right. I am so tired of this shit.
    It hasn't even started yet. The EPA is about to fuck everyone in the ass on their electric bill. I have seen some articles saying that we will have rolling power outages next year because our power plants are going to be illegal.

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    I still have a hard time thinking about how Obama got elected. Just goes to show that most people favor an empty PR campaign over substance. Not that we've had very good choices in awhile, but his bullshit could be fucking seen from space. Asshole.
    It's been a long time coming (way before this Administration), to the point of no return... barring a complete reset of our system.

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    I thought about this and I would have loved to see B of A just abolish debit cards completely. Then blame Congress for making them unprofitable. That would have been a much better solution to me because it puts the blame where it should go.
    Absolutely. Now they both look like the bastards they are.

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    I don't know a single person outside of people on the internet blogs doing that. Even then it is people talking a big game. Even if they do, that is how it is supposed to work in a free market. If enough people leave then B of A will have to do away with the fee or reduce it and accept lower profits.
    I thought about this and I would have loved to see B of A just abolish debit cards completely. Then blame Congress for making them unprofitable. That would have been a much better solution to me because it puts the blame where it should go.

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  • talisman
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    I still have a hard time thinking about how Obama got elected. Just goes to show that most people favor an empty PR campaign over substance. Not that we've had very good choices in awhile, but his bullshit could be fucking seen from space. Asshole.

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  • Broncojohnny
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    BofA to Get $20B More From TARP, Plus Backstop on $118B
    By Peter Barnes and Joanna Ossinger

    Published January 16, 2009
    | FOXBusiness

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    Bank of America (BAC) will receive $20 billion in additional bailout money from the U.S. government to help complete its merger with Merrill Lynch, the Treasury Department announced early Friday, in addition to a backstop on $118 billion of assets.

    Shares of BofA plunged 18% on Thursday amid reports the bank might get these funds, which are in addition to the $25 billion of funds the bank has already received from the Treasury Department’s Troubled Asset Relief Plan.

    Most of the $118 billion in assets being backstopped were inherited by BofA from Merrill Lynch, which it absorbed on Jan. 1. Those assets include securities backed by residential and commercial real estate loans, and Treasury said in a press release that they have all been marked to current market value. The portfolio includes $37 billion in cash assets and a derivatives portfolio that Treasury said has maximum future potential losses of $81 billion.

    If there are losses in the $118 billion pool, the first $10 billion will be absorbed by BofA. All eligible losses after that will be absorbed 90% by the government (Treasury and the FDIC) and 10% by BofA, up to a $10 billion total loss possible by the U.S. government. BofA may draw on a credit line if mark-to-market and credit losses on the pool reach $18 billion.

    BofA will issue $4 billion in new preferred stock to Treasury as the FDIC as a fee for the backstop plus warrants on additional preferred shares.

    The $20 billion from TARP will be provided by the Treasury in exchange for preferred stock with an 8% dividend. Treasury said BofA will have to comply with enhanced executive compensation restrictions and implement a mortgage loan modification program in exchange for receipt of the money.

    BofA is prohibited from issuing dividends of more than one cent per share per quarter for three years without government consent.

    Senior government officials said the transaction was modeled after a similar deal for Citigroup (C), as FOX Business's Liz MacDonald had reported was likely. The officials said talks about this deal went on for several weeks, as BofA grew more concerned about the state of "certain assets" at Merrill and that they took this action "to avert a systemic risk."

    BofA, which declined to comment on earlier reports of this deal, recently announced that it was moving up its earnings report -- it's now scheduled to release its fourth-quarter earnings report on Friday a few hours before the markets open.

    In October, BofA received $15 billion in TARP funding under the Treasury’s Capital Purchase Program for banks. At that time, Treasury also pledged to inject $10 billion into Merrill Lynch, once its acquisition by BofA was complete. When the purchase of Merrill was completed on Jan. 1, the injection was completed.

    A source told FOX Business that BofA will use the additional $20 billion in TARP funds to help the bank digest and integrate Merrill.

    The source said that after BofA and Merrill announced their merger deal last fall, Merrill’s financial health continued to deteriorate. In mid-December, BofA executives met with Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and asked him for assurances that if the bank needed additional TARP capital because of the Merrill merger, Treasury would provide it. Otherwise, the executives told Paulson, BofA would cancel the Merrill acquisition. The source said Paulson agreed to the request.

    For the latest TARP news, check out FOXBusiness.com’s Where’s My Money blog.

    The extra money for BofA, according to various media accounts, suggests the bank’s Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Lewis may have underestimated the potential damage that may still lie ahead related to Merrill’s huge investment in bad real estate securities.“It’s not reassuring,” Kenneth Scott, a professor of law and business at Stanford Law School and former general counsel of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp., told Reuters. “There are more losses to be realized, but the question is the extent to which they are already reflected in values that banks are recording on their books.

    BofA agreed on Sept. 15 to a shotgun purchase of Merrill after less than two days of negotiations, which sprung from efforts to address problems affecting venerable investment bank Lehman Brothers, which went bankrupt that morning.

    BofA has estimated the Merrill price tag at more than $24.1 billion, based on regulatory filings. Adding Merrill gave it a huge investment bank, as well as a brokerage unit that Lewis called the “crown jewel” of the takeover.

    The transaction made BofA the largest U.S. bank by assets, but saddled it with tens of billions of dollars of troubled debt, despite Merrill Chief Executive John Thain’s success in offloading tens of billions of dollars more in the previous year.

    Elizabeth MacDonald contributed to this article.



    Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/mar...#ixzz1ZuJ08sAI

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    Exactly! Leave it to us to tell BofA to take a hike. It's government's intervention that caused the bank to do this in the first place, now they want to demonize them for the sake of "looking out for the people."

    Fuck them both!
    It is government intervention that caused the mortgage crisis and that same intervention that went right into TARP. Their bullshit goes all the way back to B of A buying Merrill Lynch. They encouraged all of this shit by agreeing to backstop Merrill and Countrywide with TARP money in addition to the $15 billion in TARP funds they forced B of A to take. Now that they have paid back all the TARP money and the TARP bailouts are considered a political liability, it is all B of A's fault that they bought Merrill and Countrywide rather than the regulators who cried about systemic risk and forced a shotgun wedding.

    This government is out of control.

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    Oh look, it is a sitting Senator encouraging a run on the largest bank in the United States. And blaming them for adapting to regulation that he and his Democrat friends helped craft. That is about as comforting as a president who says the government should determine how much profit a company should be able to make.
    Exactly! Leave it to us to tell BofA to take a hike. It's government's intervention that caused the bank to do this in the first place, now they want to demonize them for the sake of "looking out for the people."

    Fuck them both!

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  • Broncojohnny
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    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    Sen. Durbin:
    Oh look, it is a sitting Senator encouraging a run on the largest bank in the United States. And blaming them for adapting to regulation that he and his Democrat friends helped craft. That is about as comforting as a president who says the government should determine how much profit a company should be able to make.

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  • SMKR
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    Originally posted by kingjason View Post
    Everyone is being nickle and dimed to death. Not only are trips to the grocery story higher, cable/internet is inching higher, and fing sprint is going to raise all their rates a lot come December. Hell all we need is gas to hit 5 bucks a gallon again and I say full blown recession worse then we have ever seen.

    I know I am solid lower middle class while the wifey is finishing school and I live right. I am being screwd left and right by all these damn programs and crap designed to help the poor suffering people out that have zero common sense when it comes to dealing with money. Cant pay your mortgage, hell we will reduce it. Cant afford cell phones, how about a free one. Drive an old ass car, hey we can give you money for that to get a new one. Last but least, overdraft your bank account often? Well hell we will make sure the banks cant get you anymore for that and stick it to everyone else that has been living right. I am so tired of this shit.
    X2

    its the small foxes that spoil the vine

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  • kingjason
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    Everyone is being nickle and dimed to death. Not only are trips to the grocery story higher, cable/internet is inching higher, and fing sprint is going to raise all their rates a lot come December. Hell all we need is gas to hit 5 bucks a gallon again and I say full blown recession worse then we have ever seen.

    I know I am solid lower middle class while the wifey is finishing school and I live right. I am being screwd left and right by all these damn programs and crap designed to help the poor suffering people out that have zero common sense when it comes to dealing with money. Cant pay your mortgage, hell we will reduce it. Cant afford cell phones, how about a free one. Drive an old ass car, hey we can give you money for that to get a new one. Last but least, overdraft your bank account often? Well hell we will make sure the banks cant get you anymore for that and stick it to everyone else that has been living right. I am so tired of this shit.

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  • SMKR
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    Originally posted by Jedi View Post
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bank-o...381425092.html

    Anyone have a bank they like? Need online banking and billpay.
    Chase

    my bro is a bank mgr there and i like
    how if i need anything i can call him.

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  • Denny
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    Sen. Durbin:

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    The treasury.
    Ya, no doubt.

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