Diesel vs. Gas long term cost of maintenance/repairs

[CJ]

I'm doing a business proposal for my company, and I'm having some difficulty coming up with some solid articles or research performed showing like vehicles in comparison to their long term maintenance with gas and diesel engines. I'm certain Diesels are cheaper in the long run, but it's hard finding conclusive research data for it. Is anyone aware of any websites, or articles that show this?

[Cooter]

modern diesels aren't necessarily cheaper anymore

what's the application?

[78X]

at $1+ gallon more for diesel, I dunno

[CJ]

modern diesels aren't necessarily cheaper anymore

what's the application?

I'm an auto lender. Right now corporate is trying to stop me from financing all diesels. I've been a huge proponent for my company setting our underwriting guidelines to finance diesel 3/4 tons+ because their value retention is incredible. Now they want some repair/maintenance data and I'm just running out of available research to cite. They don't seem to understand they reliably last to 300,000 miles.

[Cooter]

ahh... yeah, they definitely hold their value.

seems like showing closed auction sales prices and auction prices of various diesel models at different age/mileage vs. similar gas trucks would be an easy argument

[CJ]

ahh... yeah, they definitely hold their value.

seems like showing closed auction sales prices and auction prices of various diesel models at different age/mileage vs. similar gas trucks would be an easy argument

Yep, already did that and proved that for sure. They want repair/maintenance figures. I can't find any long term comparisons for that.

[Ruffdaddy]

Yep, already did that and proved that for sure. They want repair/maintenance figures. I can't find any long term comparisons for that.

Get maintenance schedules and quotes for the required items from the same dealer.

[racrguy]

I know this isn't helping your case any, but I recently watched a program on Kenworth, in their newest truck (granted, it's the Semi world) the engine is supposed to last 1 million miles without an overhaul, with only allowing 10% to not make the million mile mark.

[Baron Von Crowder]

$60 oil change every 8-10k plus a fuel filter every now and then. No timing belts or plugs.

Gas needs a $30 oil change every 3-5k. Most of the newer ones don't need plugs changed but every 100k.

[Ruffdaddy]

$60 oil change every 8-10k plus a fuel filter every now and then. No timing belts or plugs.

Gas needs a $30 oil change every 3-5k. Most of the newer ones don't need plugs changed but every 100k.

3-5K isn't the case anymore. Several are 7.5K to 10K...but what you've done is skew it to look like the gas is more expensive. This is common for people proving a diesel point.

I still think you need to look at published data with regards to maintenence schedules. This can be found in users manuals. Then go to the same dealer and get quotes for all of that maintenence to 300K. You may actually find that a gas is in fact cheaper, or you may prove your point. Either way, have an open mind in your research so your upper management doesn't fire you for favoring a simple opinion.

The fact that you've already made up your mind would be worrisome to me if I were reviewing your proposal.

[racrguy]

3-5K isn't the case anymore. Several are 7.5K to 10K...but what you've done is skew it to look like the gas is more expensive. This is common for people proving a diesel point.

I still think you need to look at published data with regards to maintenence schedules. This can be found in users manuals. Then go to the same dealer and get quotes for all of that maintenence to 300K. You may actually find that a gas is in fact cheaper, or you may prove your point. Either way, have an open mind in your research so your upper management doesn't fire you for favoring a simple opinion.

The fact that you've already made up your mind would be worrisome to me if I were reviewing your proposal.

I have yet to come across a standard run of the mill vehicle from the big 3 with a 7.5 or 10k service interval. Since we're comparing diesel trucks, you should use the same manufacturers gas vehicles as comparison. Post up the ones you're talking about with those extended service intervals.

[bobs94formula]

$60 oil change every 8-10k plus a fuel filter every now and then. No timing belts or plugs.

Gas needs a $30 oil change every 3-5k. Most of the newer ones don't need plugs changed but every 100k.

Don't the newer diesels require a fuel filter more often now?

[CJ]

3-5K isn't the case anymore. Several are 7.5K to 10K...but what you've done is skew it to look like the gas is more expensive. This is common for people proving a diesel point.

I still think you need to look at published data with regards to maintenence schedules. This can be found in users manuals. Then go to the same dealer and get quotes for all of that maintenence to 300K. You may actually find that a gas is in fact cheaper, or you may prove your point. Either way, have an open mind in your research so your upper management doesn't fire you for favoring a simple opinion.

The fact that you've already made up your mind would be worrisome to me if I were reviewing your proposal.

LOL, I'm not going to get fired for my report.

[Ruffdaddy]

I have yet to come across a standard run of the mill vehicle from the big 3 with a 7.5 or 10k service interval. Since we're comparing diesel trucks, you should use the same manufacturers gas vehicles as comparison. Post up the ones you're talking about with those extended service intervals.

Ford trucks can go up to 10K or 1 year depending on driving habits. Granted several manufacturers are going to the IOLM systems, you will still not generally have the 3-5K intervals. That proog enough for you retard? Read up on it before commenting like an uneducated fool.

[Ruffdaddy]

LOL, I'm not going to get fired for my report.

haha yes it was a bit of an exaggeration, but you do want them to trust your work don't you?