Interesting information for your perusal...

[Leah]

I think you edited your post, i remember it reading "pointed it out to shoe we arent just working 8-3 with all our holidays"

I assumed you were talking about someone named shoe, haha.

That wasn't my original response?

[CJ]

Cj, Wtf are you talking about??

I think you edited your post, i remember it reading "pointed it out to shoe we arent just working 8-3 with all our holidays"

I assumed you were talking about someone named shoe, haha.

[mikec]

Absolutely. Those that can't do, teach. I've heard that all my life, and found it to be quite accurate in the majority of cases.

Mine was actually head of back ground investigations for Pinkerton before going into teaching.

Just pointing out that those cute little sayings aren't always entirely spot on. Wish we had actual statistics to help determine exactly how accurate that particular one is...

[Leah]

Cj, Wtf are you talking about??

[bcoop]

As far as college my experience with professors is they are over educated and under experienced. Most of them are failures at their profession, and the only job they could land was teaching the books to other people.

Absolutely. Those that can't do, teach. I've heard that all my life, and found it to be quite accurate in the majority of cases.

[CJ]

I pointed it out to show we arent just working 8-3 with all our holidays and such for all you people who think its a blow off job. It has nothing to do with pay. I'm quite content with my pay thank you.

So your original post was a reply to a post in another thread? As someone coming into a new thread it seemed pretty clear to me what the topic was about. If it's regarding another thread I clearly didn't read the previous one so you can see how that could be misinterpreted.

[Leah]

I pointed it out to show we arent just working 8-3 with all our holidays and such for all you people who think its a blow off job. It has nothing to do with pay. I'm quite content with my pay thank you.

[CJ]

She was arguing about your statements seeming to indicate any Jo blow off the street could adequately perform in a classroom. Many would be surprised how tough it can be. You seem to be centering around the money, which was never her point.

Well then why did she highlight the only portion of the article which follows hours worked and non-compensation? It seems pretty clear the point of that highlighted section is to follow how teachers are not paid for a large portion of their work.

[mikec]

Sounds awfully close to 2000 - 2100 a year ... Right in that meaty part of the curve. Not showing off, not falling behind ...

Just perfectly average...

Not so much. Almost sounds like she works more in nine months than others do in 12...

[stevo]

TX educators are striking?

My wife has taught for 12 years and I've never heard about even one strike. Not one.

It was pointed out to me early in this thread that we are not discussing teachers just here in Texas.

Tacoma, Washington Teachers On Strike After Failed Negotiations

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_959867.html

Stevo

[Ruffdaddy]

Sounds awfully close to 2000 - 2100 a year ... Right in that meaty part of the curve. Not showing off, not falling behind ...

Just perfectly average...

[slow99]

As for hours she works? She is there five days a week, from 7:30 to 5, sometimes having to work on lesson plans and the like on the weekends. Where does that put her on the "full time hours worked" list?

Sounds awfully close to 2000 - 2100 a year ... Right in that meaty part of the curve. Not showing off, not falling behind ...

[mikec]

There is no way I could be a teacher now. The kids are absolutely hopeless. The little asshat in leahs story isn't the exception he's the norm. Kids now days know nothing is going to happen to them if they screw off and they're to stupid to think about the future. BUT it's always the teachers or the parents fault no little Johnny asshat.

This is the absolute truth. Fact is that it is impossible to get them to do the work if they choose to not do so. Many times the parents could care less. I've heard about it for years. Also school administration focuses on percentages of groups of kids to determine where their focus is for "x calendar year", with some departments being completely ignored until their percentages change and make them the focus for that years TAKS tests.

To no one in particular: Some of you people are pretty smart in your area, and completely ignorant in this one, though it's always nice to see your mastery of that which you know nothing...

I see. So the strikes for better pay are for the kids, then. Makes perfect sense.

My wife has taught for 12 years and I've never heard about even one strike. Not one.


As for hours she works? She is there five days a week, from 7:30 to 5, sometimes having to work on lesson plans and the like on the weekends. Where does that put her on the "full time hours worked" list?

[Ruffdaddy]

I think the students play a larger role in whether they pass or fail than the actual teachers. Just like teachers that always complain about standardized tests, and the kids who put in no effort...there are the kids who put in their own extra effort making the teacher look good.

Look at college for example, you are required to teach yourself much more than a professor will teach you.

[Cooter]

I see. So the strikes for better pay are for the kids, then. Makes perfect sense.

TX educators are striking?