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Guest repliedYou dildos sure fucked up my thread. Bitches.
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Originally posted by racrguy View Post*yawn* wake me when you can come up with something of substance.
IF you aren't there I will find you. I have ways.
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Originally posted by racrguy View PostSure thing, sparky. Do I need to call a few friends from your past so you can feel welcome, just like when you left TX?
I will walk right past them and break your fucking nose.
PUSSY!
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostThis is why I fully believe you are a drug induced homo. You have nothing. You make dumb statements and cannot back anything up. You are the one splattering claims and then idiotically say "look it up." Typical liberal faggotry.
Just bought my ticket:
Wednesday, April 18
Arrival Waco (ACT)
United Flight 2908
11:00AM
I hope you are ready to shit your teeth out.
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Originally posted by racrguy View PostFucking READ the goddamn thing, you ignorant piece of shit.
Edit: My local airport is ACT. Feel free to fly in, I'll be there waiting on you.
Just bought my ticket:
Wednesday, April 18
Arrival Waco (ACT)
United Flight 2908
11:00AM
I hope you are ready to shit your teeth out.
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostHow does the constitution limit religion? Answer or I will be buying my plane ticket tonight will have you meet me at the airport where I will promptly slap the dog shit out of you in the name of Jesus Christ.
Edit: My local airport is ACT. Feel free to fly in, I'll be there waiting on you.
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Originally posted by racrguy View PostAre you fuckin' serious?
Is this guy fuckin' serious?
Shut the fuck up.
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostHow is it you comprehend these things? Do you smoke a bowl before practicing any sort of deductive reasoning? Where exactly is it limited?
I think I should simply fly back there and beat your liberal, drug induced, retarded ass in the name of Jesus.
Is this guy fuckin' serious?
Shut the fuck up.
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Originally posted by talisman View PostNice.
None of the five is particularly pleasant ideologically," Hughes added, saying that even Washington was a slave owner whose newly forged country then went on to try to destroy its native population.
(Reporting by Angus MacSwan, London newsroom 44 207 542 7918; editing by Tim Pearce)
If Hughes shackles Washington with the sins of the United States, i suppose turn about is fair play?
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Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostI have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
I LOVE this line:
Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostYou probably learned of the above events from the mainstream media back in the day, but never really looked into them. I have.
Originally posted by racrguy View PostYet those same founding fathers, in the constitution, only mention religion in order to limit it.
I think I should simply fly back there and beat your liberal, drug induced, retarded ass in the name of Jesus.
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostYou aren't all there as usual. The point is God and religion were a part of US government since the beginning whether you want to believe it or not. I am still waiting for you to "run with this one." So far you haven't said squat other than to show how butt hurt you can be when God is mentioned.
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Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post"Address:
Trend Micro has confirmed that this website can transmit malicious software or has been involved in online scams or fraud."
Hmm, can't check your link. As for classified information, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
“All Of the Founding Fathers Were Agnostics And Deists!”
This entry was posted on July 3, 2011, in Education, Politics, Random and tagged Christianity, Declaration of Independence, Founding Fathers, Independence Day, July 4th, Religion. Bookmark the permalink. 29 Comments
In case you’re wondering what the fireworks, parades and cookout clamor is all about this time of year, let me give you a one sentence history lesson on July 4th: Independence Day is when Americans (winning!) celebrate the adoption of the Declaration of Independence that happened on July 4, 1776, which declared American Colonial independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain.
I’m thankful the founding fathers had the backbone to stand up to the bloody Motherland and sign that Revolutionary document of epic proportions. Otherwise we’d all be sporting bad teeth and eating crappy food right now; Or even worse, obsessed with the marriage of Prince William and Kate Middleton.
There is another legacy I am thankful the FF left behind too. This one is to the chagrin of strange secular e-scholars armed with gobs of misinformation. If you do a tertiary Google search of the “Founding Fathers Religion” you just might walk away with an overwhelming impression that America was founded on Deism and Agnosticism.
As my scorned Brit counterparts may say in a classic Monty Python tone: “Rubbish!”
Now, I know some wiggle room may be needed when throwing around absolutes about the personal religious belief’s of dudes who lived 250 years ago. Given there are some minor conflicting reports on a handful of the signers, a + or - 2 point margin of error may be due. But the signers were highly literate public figures who wrote a lot, whether it be letters or articles. In addition to church records, their own words take the guesswork out of discerning where most all of them stood whether politically or religiously.
So here is the specific religious persuasion of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence. Scope out this snazzy table I jacked from Adherents.com:
Episcopalian/Anglican 32 57.1%
Congregationalist 13 23.2%
Presbyterian 12 21.4%
Quaker 2 3.6%
Unitarian or Universalist 2 3.6%
Catholic 1 1.8%
TOTAL 56 100%
The FF’s religion simply mirrored that of American religious life. A compelling case could be made that the FF’s were actually more denominationally affiliated than the average citizen of the day.
Out of the 56 signers, only two were the overtly unorthodox ”Unitarian/Universalist”: John Adams and Robert Paine (both came from a Congregationalist background). The table does fail to distinguish two notable Episcopalian-affiliated FF’s from the rest (I would have put them in a different category). Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were both Deists. Though both subscribed to a Creator, they also posited God was as an absentee Father in their day in age.
So when adding it up in the most liberal way possible, there were a total of FOUR signers of the DoI who would not be considered “bible-believing” Christians in the most fundamental classical sense.
4 out of 56. A total of 7 % were not orthodox Christians. Or to put it positively, 93 % of the signers of the DoI were orthodox bible believing Christians. In fact, four of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were current or former full-time preachers, and many more were the sons of clergymen. A large percentage graduated from Ivy League seminaries, back when Ivy League Seminaries churned out missionaries with a high view of Scripture.
Signer John Witherspoon, the President of Princeton University and Presbyterian minister, said:
It is the man of piety and inward principle, that we may expect to find the uncorrupted patriot, the useful citizen, and the invincible soldier. – God grant that in America true religion and civil liberty may be inseperable and that the unjust attempts to destroy the one, may in the issue tend to the support and establishment of both.
Hmmm. Sounds like the founders had a much more nuanced view of that “impenetrable wall between church and state” than contemporary secular apologists suggest. Contemporary historical expert on the matter, Robert G. Ferris, writes:
The signers possessed many basic similarities. Most were American-born and of Anglo-Saxon origin. The eight foreign-born… were all natives of the British Isles. Except for Charles Carroll, a Roman Catholic, and a few Deists, every one subscribed to Protestantism. For the most part basically political nonextremists, many at first had hesitated at separation let alone rebellion.
Now I know some of the founders (especially the unorthodox ones) had some disparaging remarks about institutionalized religion. They were not far removed from the abuses and persecutions of a British state religion after all. That is the primary reason the DoI has a strong non-denominational appeal to it. Though largely all Protestant, the signers were wise enough to see the folly and corruption that followed a virtual Theocratic state.
That is the genius of their “government by the people,” instead of by the King or political elite. Most every FF believed in the sinfulness of all men, even (especially?) those untouchable men crowned with great authority.
So I am thankful for the Christian heritage of America’s Founding Fathers. By no means do I believe they intended to establish an expressly “Christian nation” with no regard to other worldviews. But a majority were clearly men of Christian conviction and conscience, with a deep reverence for the sovereign God revealed in Scripture.
The founding fathers were not all agnostics or deists. Any modern theory that leans on such blatant historical revisionism is, well…rubbish.
Bryan Daniels
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