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Can someone explain to me the benefits of a boxer engine exactly? I know they have a lower center of gravity, but what actual performance gains does this cylinder configuration have? I thought they had better low end, but really who the hell cares in a 4 cylinder."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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The weight, the sound (negative to someone who doesn't like the sound), and that's really it with the skimpy 2.0 four. In the flat 6 boxers, the low end is the main selling point.Originally posted by CJ View PostCan someone explain to me the benefits of a boxer engine exactly? I know they have a lower center of gravity, but what actual performance gains does this cylinder configuration have? I thought they had better low end, but really who the hell cares in a 4 cylinder.
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Their is no special "sound" with the FR-S/BRZ engine, it has equal length headers. No subbie wrx rumble FTL!Originally posted by Ratt View PostThe weight, the sound (negative to someone who doesn't like the sound), and that's really it with the skimpy 2.0 four.
Not a fan of boxster engines, really wished the car came with a high revving engine like the yamaha 2zz-ge engine of old or something like a honda k20.
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I know you touched on it, but i really do think the low center of gravity -is- the main selling point of the design.Originally posted by CJ View PostCan someone explain to me the benefits of a boxer engine exactly? I know they have a lower center of gravity, but what actual performance gains does this cylinder configuration have? I thought they had better low end, but really who the hell cares in a 4 cylinder.
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If I had one, it would. Boxer engines sound different from inline or v engines regardless of exhaust, it's just really subtle. I love it, but then again I'm weird and also like the sound of a high-winding rotary as wellOriginally posted by A_A_G View PostTheir is no special "sound" with the FR-S/BRZ engine, it has equal length headers. No subbie wrx rumble FTL!
Not a fan of boxster engines, really wished the car came with a high revving engine like the yamaha 2zz-ge engine of old or something like a honda k20.
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I bet these little sewing machines can handle some abuse. Just to be on the safe side I want first dibs. I pray they dont have remote kill switches, I intend on whipping it around a few times before they kick me out.Originally posted by gav91183 View Postme and a bunch of buddies are signing up for the 1-2pm time. Hope all these cars aren't broke by then hahahaha
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I dont know, but they are getting 500rwhp and running 11.30's @ 127 with stock internals. Pretty bad ass 4 banger if you ask me....Originally posted by CJ View PostCan someone explain to me the benefits of a boxer engine exactly? I know they have a lower center of gravity, but what actual performance gains does this cylinder configuration have? I thought they had better low end, but really who the hell cares in a 4 cylinder.
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Are you talking about the turbo Sti motors or the new BRZ/FRS engine? If the 2.0L NA 200hp 4 banger can handle 500hp on stock internals, I'll be damn impressed.Originally posted by 03WhiteGT View PostI dont know, but they are getting 500rwhp and running 11.30's @ 127 with stock internals. Pretty bad ass 4 banger if you ask me....Ford
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The 2.0 is laying down some amazing numbers. Google turbo frs, there is a vid of one running 11.3 @ 127 plus all kinds of dyno'sOriginally posted by quikag View PostAre you talking about the turbo Sti motors or the new BRZ/FRS engine? If the 2.0L NA 200hp 4 banger can handle 500hp on stock internals, I'll be damn impressed.
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So can a yugo...whats your point? The car looks like a retarded school girlOriginally posted by Slowhand View PostI
You do realize that cars can turn, right?
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So your point is if you add a turbo its fast?Originally posted by 03WhiteGT View PostThe 2.0 is laying down some amazing numbers. Google turbo frs, there is a vid of one running 11.3 @ 127 plus all kinds of dyno's"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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If you put the same amount of money into a Foxbody, imagine how fast it would be!Originally posted by 03WhiteGT View PostNot trying to make a point; have no need to. I was just pointing out that little 2.0 is putting up some stout numbers for what it is.
I forget where I am... Cant make anykind of post without some smartass comment.
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They reviewed the fr-s on a podcast I'm subscribed to and they were talking about how weak the stock internal are on the boxter engines. Pretty much anything over 300hp and you're asking for trouble. then again, who would you believe...car guys or internet videos?"Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson
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