Mayor slashes ALL city employees down to minimum wage

[stevo]

I wasn't....I didn't want to go get shot at so a oil company could make money.
What does my not serving have to do with things vets have told me? Absolutly nada

But you did want to go camp in front of a bank holding a 99%er sign and complain about the wealthy I'm sure...

Really? And just what did we find that warranted a illegal invasion of a independant country, the assasination of it's leader, the murder of 100,000's of Iraqis, the death of over 5000 American Soldiers, the injury of over 50,000 others? Oh yeah and Trillions of dollars spent and many more to follow?
Poison Gas? So freakin what. North Korea has nuks and their leaders are way more batshit crazy than Sadam ever was. Iraq was not a direct threat to the US.
Anyway thread derail big time.

Guess Illegal was incorrect after all Bushie did lie and bully congress to approve the invasion.

You did mean that the war was started by Bill Clinton, correct?

Stevo

[Forever_frost]

Like I said, he has dodged and refused to answer while attacking me. Answer the question 4 eyes

[The King]

What did you think was going to happen to saddam after we turned him over to his enemies? I certainly wasn't suprise when he was killed. Just because an american didn't put the noose over his head doesn't mean we're not responsible for it.

Does that mean then, in your opinion, that Obama and his enlightened European friends are responsible for Khadafi being killed, even though an American or Frenchman didn't shoot him in the head?

[DON SVO]

Really? And just what did we find that warranted a illegal invasion of a independant country, the assasination of it's leader, the murder of 100,000's of Iraqis, the death of over 5000 American Soldiers, the injury of over 50,000 others? Oh yeah and Trillions of dollars spent and many more to follow?
Poison Gas? So freakin what. North Korea has nuks and their leaders are way more batshit crazy than Sadam ever was. Iraq was not a direct threat to the US.
Anyway thread derail big time.

No, this thread is right on track. Everyone has a right to an opinion and this thread is to discuss what is certainly a grievance for the city in question. However... you have certainly steered it away from it's intended course, insulted a Veteran by attacking his validity and ethics then refused to engage the very argument you created. Sadly, you've done all of this with pure heresay.

I will humor you on a couple very valid points... NK is certainly striving to be a nuclear power, and that's a threat. Saddam Hussein killed thousands of people with his WMDs. NK hasn't done anything (yet), Saddam was convicted by his own country and hanged by his own country for his legitimate crimes.

An it wan't republican soldiers I was talking about the people on here when I said repuks earlier

Frost is asking which REPUBLICAN soldiers did you glean your information from. We're all well aware of your hatred for Conservatives.

LOL @ illegal. You're a dumbass. There was absolutely nothing illegal about it at all. The only thing you know is what other people tell you, I can positively prove you have never done any research yourself spewing this ideological garbage.

Guess Illegal was incorrect after all Bushie did lie and bully congress to approve the invasion.

Actually, Bush responded last since the call was made by Congress and the House to go to the Middle East. If that's your opinion of the War In Iraq/Afghan, you need your quote to include Hillary Clinton and John Kerry.

We found hundreds of tons of yellow cake uranium and cyanide salts. We also found toxic gasses that he'd already used on his own people and threatened to us one us. It also wasn't an illegal invasion. It was backed by the Congress and thus was constitutional. We also didn't assassinate it's leader, we turned him over to his own people. We also didn't murder 100,000 of Iraqis and the entire 10 years was far less than a trillion dollars.

I argue with people like you on the WH page every day. You ahve to step up your game. So back on topic. Names, ranks and units of these war criminals and how much oil did we get from Iraq and Afghanistan

Yellow Cake is meaningless to people who define a WMD as an activated, developed warhead with tracking capabilities and attached to a missle. It's the most futile way to evade the reality of Yellow Cake being the most readily accessible form of enrichable nuclear weaponry for broke-dick shit hole countries/regimes without the means to accquire and properly enrich the good stuff.

He didn't lie. He relayed information given to him. Would you like the videos of the Democrats calling for us to attack? And bully? Bush bullied someone? Have you seen anyone less of a bully than this man? The man who came to pin my purple heart, the man who rides with wounded warriors and was first on site at the Ft. Hood shooting.

He's not going to answer that or ask for the video. Same as he won't answer the question about oil being a motivator.

Yeah you're right, Bush himself lied to congress and confused all of them. Even though he never addressed congress and the multiple reports came from a separate branch of government. He was so good at lying, even Hillary promoted the invasion. As stupid as the democrats portray Bush, he was a fucking genius at deceiving them time and time and time again. So either Bush was a fucking genius, or democrats are dumb as shit and got led around on leashes. The truth is there was bad intel, everyone got the same intel. And everyone came to the same conclusion.

What I think you meant to say is it was a completely legal war, you just disagree with it. And for your information try not to say it's illegal or oil was the reason in the future. It makes you look really dumb, seeing as the contracts for Iraqi oil were not even awarded to US producers.

The problem here, 4eyedwillie, is that you have very strong beliefs but they have no substance or solid basis in reality. It's similar to building a mansion on a sand pit without a foundation: it looks real pretty until you keep flaunting it and asking people to check it out, but those folks are engineers and architects who watch it break into pieces and sink.

[CJ]

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline

Other reports say close to one million but I highly doubt that.

And Iran said the same thing plus they're refining do you thing we need to invade them? And as I said North Korea HAS nuks and we are still technically at war with them. Thats a very weak arguement to go to war.

What did you think was going to happen to saddam after we turned him over to his enemies? I certainly wasn't suprise when he was killed. Just because an american didn't put the noose over his head doesn't mean we're not responsible for it.

Have you ever considered that he murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people? Do you not feel his own people deserve justice? Did you not take into account that his "enemies" are his own people? He wasn't murdered, he was tried and convicted on evidence of thousands of murders by his own people. It is literally laughable to defend that man. There wasn't a single tear shed in Iraq over his demise.

Another question about Iran to consider. What exactly would you do if Iran nuked Israel? What would you do then? You know, if history is your forte than maybe you should do some research on world war II, and how people who are voicing your exactly opinion refused to acknowledge the holocaust, and the European invasion would even occur, or had occurred. You have to consider that non-intervention can be just as dangerous as intervention in many situations.

[Forever_frost]

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline

Other reports say close to one million but I highly doubt that.

And Iran said the same thing plus they're refining do you thing we need to invade them? And as I said North Korea HAS nuks and we are still technically at war with them. Thats a very weak arguement to go to war.

What did you think was going to happen to saddam after we turned him over to his enemies? I certainly wasn't suprise when he was killed. Just because an american didn't put the noose over his head doesn't mean we're not responsible for it.

I'm familiar on the body count of my brothers and sisters. Very. And I'm also familiar with the deaths of Iraqis. Now scooter, how many were innocents and killed by us and how many were insurgents or killed by insurgent weapons, IED's, car bombs, kids wearing explosive vests and so forth?

And back to something you said. Who are these soldiers you mentioned and how much oil have we pulled in Iraq and AFghanistan. Come on Sparky. Who are these war criminals.

[4eyedwillie]

We found hundreds of tons of yellow cake uranium and cyanide salts. We also found toxic gasses that he'd already used on his own people and threatened to us one us. It also wasn't an illegal invasion. It was backed by the Congress and thus was constitutional. We also didn't assassinate it's leader, we turned him over to his own people. We also didn't murder 100,000 of Iraqis and the entire 10 years was far less than a trillion dollars.

I argue with people like you on the WH page every day. You ahve to step up your game. So back on topic. Names, ranks and units of these war criminals and how much oil did we get from Iraq and Afghanistan

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline

Other reports say close to one million but I highly doubt that.

And Iran said the same thing plus they're refining do you thing we need to invade them? And as I said North Korea HAS nuks and we are still technically at war with them. Thats a very weak arguement to go to war.

What did you think was going to happen to saddam after we turned him over to his enemies? I certainly wasn't suprise when he was killed. Just because an american didn't put the noose over his head doesn't mean we're not responsible for it.

[CJ]

Guess Illegal was incorrect after all Bushie did lie and bully congress to approve the invasion.

Yeah you're right, Bush himself lied to congress and confused all of them. Even though he never addressed congress and the multiple reports came from a separate branch of government. He was so good at lying, even Hillary promoted the invasion. As stupid as the democrats portray Bush, he was a fucking genius at deceiving them time and time and time again. So either Bush was a fucking genius, or democrats are dumb as shit and got led around on leashes. The truth is there was bad intel, everyone got the same intel. And everyone came to the same conclusion.

What I think you meant to say is it was a completely legal war, you just disagree with it. And for your information try not to say it's illegal or oil was the reason in the future. It makes you look really dumb, seeing as the contracts for Iraqi oil were not even awarded to US producers.

[Forever_frost]

Guess Illegal was incorrect after all Bushie did lie and bully congress to approve the invasion.

He didn't lie. He relayed information given to him. Would you like the videos of the Democrats calling for us to attack? And bully? Bush bullied someone? Have you seen anyone less of a bully than this man? The man who came to pin my purple heart, the man who rides with wounded warriors and was first on site at the Ft. Hood shooting.

[Forever_frost]

Really? And just what did we find that warranted a illegal invasion of a independant country, the assasination of it's leader, the murder of 100,000's of Iraqis, the death of over 5000 American Soldiers, the injury of over 50,000 others? Oh yeah and Trillions of dollars spent and many more to follow?
Poison Gas? So freakin what. North Korea has nuks and their leaders are way more batshit crazy than Sadam ever was. Iraq was not a direct threat to the US.
Anyway thread derail big time.

We found hundreds of tons of yellow cake uranium and cyanide salts. We also found toxic gasses that he'd already used on his own people and threatened to us one us. It also wasn't an illegal invasion. It was backed by the Congress and thus was constitutional. We also didn't assassinate it's leader, we turned him over to his own people. We also didn't murder 100,000 of Iraqis and the entire 10 years was far less than a trillion dollars.

I argue with people like you on the WH page every day. You ahve to step up your game. So back on topic. Names, ranks and units of these war criminals and how much oil did we get from Iraq and Afghanistan

[4eyedwillie]

LOL @ illegal. You're a dumbass. There was absolutely nothing illegal about it at all. The only thing you know is what other people tell you, I can positively prove you have never done any research yourself spewing this ideological garbage.

Guess Illegal was incorrect after all Bushie did lie and bully congress to approve the invasion.

[CJ]

Really? And just what did we find that warranted a illegal invasion of a independant country, the assasination of it's leader, the murder of 100,000's of Iraqis, the death of over 5000 American Soldiers, the injury of over 50,000 others? Oh yeah and Trillions of dollars spent and many more to follow?
Poison Gas? So freakin what. North Korea has nuks and their leaders are way more batshit crazy than Sadam ever was. Iraq was not a direct threat to the US.
Anyway thread derail big time.

LOL @ illegal. You're a dumbass. There was absolutely nothing illegal about it at all. The only thing you know is what other people tell you, I can positively prove you have never done any research yourself spewing this ideological garbage.

[4eyedwillie]

An it wan't republican soldiers I was talking about the people on here when I said repuks earlier

I'm too busy counting the returns on my 401k to mess with that asshat!

[4eyedwillie]

Yeah, when someone pulls the "oil company" lines, I know they know dick about why we went there, what we found and what we did

Really? And just what did we find that warranted a illegal invasion of a independant country, the assasination of it's leader, the murder of 100,000's of Iraqis, the death of over 5000 American Soldiers, the injury of over 50,000 others? Oh yeah and Trillions of dollars spent and many more to follow?
Poison Gas? So freakin what. North Korea has nuks and their leaders are way more batshit crazy than Sadam ever was. Iraq was not a direct threat to the US.
Anyway thread derail big time.