Mayor slashes ALL city employees down to minimum wage

[CJ]

Let me help you alittle there...I forgot I was talking to repuks

Oh sorry, hearsay, much more dependable. For what it's worth I believe that you believe what those people believe.

[4eyedwillie]

Difference is, the Constitution says that my pay and such are REQUIRED. Now, point me to the Constitutional authority to pay you from federal taxpayers

If your that adament about it then you shouldn't use the service and you shouldn't cash the checks. The constitution doesn't say dick about you having to use the service just that it be available.
And FYI I am not nor have I ever been paid from the federal taxpayers.
I just find it funny that you think a cop or firefighter doesn't deserve their pay/benifits but your happy to take yours. I personally think they deserve what their contract promised them and you deserve what yours promised you.

[Forever_frost]

I wasn't....I didn't want to go get shot at so a oil company could make money.
What does my not serving have to do with things vets have told me? Absolutly nada

Now we're getting somewhere. How much oil have we taken from Iraq and Afghanistan? And you didn't talk to republican troops. You talked to no one and watched MSNBC or you talked to the "Veterans against War". A bucnh of cowards who make shit up to make us sound bad

[Forever_frost]

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We were trained to treat Iraqis with utmost respect and had so many rules put on us that if they got hurt fighting US, we had to stop and treat them. Had an incident where a guy wouldn't put down an AK and when we took it away, the front sight post cut his palm. Our medic came over and bandaged him up.



You know frost I've talked to several vets and none of them were rosy fresh innocent with their treatment of Iraqis. Driving tanks over and into cars just because they could and laughing about it. Shooting wounded prisoners so they didn't have to deal with them, the list goes on and on. While in a war situation shit happens don't come back and act all goodie goodie afterwards.

I'm going to call BS as well. You shoot a wounded prisoner, you're a war criminal and will go to Levenworth for years. Running over cars for fun? You have to pay for those. What your 'friends' didn't tell you is after every firefight a soldier with a rucksack full of cash goes around to pay for every injury, every death (including the insurgents who were shooting at us to pay the blood debt) and damages to homes and vehicles. We have so many ROE's that it's unreal.

I'm calling BS

[Forever_frost]

So are you going to stop going to the VA and taking the disability check? You keep harping that we are out of money. Someone who is thatadament about something should put up or shut up! Or does that only apply to other people?

Difference is, the Constitution says that my pay and such are REQUIRED. Now, point me to the Constitutional authority to pay you from federal taxpayers

[4eyedwillie]

I wasn't....I didn't want to go get shot at so a oil company could make money.
What does my not serving have to do with things vets have told me? Absolutly nada

[The King]

So, you've "talked to several vets" have you? The question begs to be asked then, when were you, yourself, in the military?

[4eyedwillie]

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You know frost I've talked to several vets and none of them were rosy fresh innocent with their treatment of Iraqis. Driving tanks over and into cars just because they could and laughing about it. Shooting wounded prisoners so they didn't have to deal with them, the list goes on and on. While in a war situation shit happens don't come back and act all goodie goodie afterwards.

Let me help you alittle there...I forgot I was talking to repuks

[Broncojohnny]

Sounds like you've been watching too many documentaries.

The ones over at MSNBC at that...

[CJ]

You know frost I've talked to several vets and none of them were rosy fresh innocent with their treatment of Iraqis. Driving tanks over and into cars just because they could and laughing about it. Shooting wounded prisoners so they didn't have to deal with them, the list goes on and on. While in a war situation shit happens don't come back and act all goodie goodie afterwards.

Sounds like you've been watching too many documentaries.

[4eyedwillie]

[QUOTE=Forever_frost;748363]We were trained to treat Iraqis with utmost respect and had so many rules put on us that if they got hurt fighting US, we had to stop and treat them. Had an incident where a guy wouldn't put down an AK and when we took it away, the front sight post cut his palm. Our medic came over and bandaged him up.



You know frost I've talked to several vets and none of them were rosy fresh innocent with their treatment of Iraqis. Driving tanks over and into cars just because they could and laughing about it. Shooting wounded prisoners so they didn't have to deal with them, the list goes on and on. While in a war situation shit happens don't come back and act all goodie goodie afterwards.

[4eyedwillie]

Exactly. In a business, it doesn't matter what you promise, when you run out of money, you're out of money. They either take what you can afford or move on. Oh, and our combat pay qualifications changed as soon as Obama got his hands on the DoD. That was changing our contracts.

So are you going to stop going to the VA and taking the disability check? You keep harping that we are out of money. Someone who is thatadament about something should put up or shut up! Or does that only apply to other people?

[Forever_frost]

Im with you on this one. The ones that are gonna do it, do it before we get there. The rest are attention whores (for the most part).

If you get called out for one and they don't do it, put a bullet in their skull, bill the family for the trip and move on.

[01yz2nv]

Right. So where do you pull it from? What you aren't seeing, what no LEO supporter or FD supporter on here is seeing is this: Police and fire are great. But there's no money. None. Piggy bank is empty. How do you propose they continue to be paid at current levels when the city, state and federal government is bankrupt?

Edit: I'm also of the mindset if there's a "suicide in progress" you're not going to get there in time. Let them thin themselves out

Im with you on this one. The ones that are gonna do it, do it before we get there. The rest are attention whores (for the most part).

[Forever_frost]

To take from police and fire is a bad idea....if you disagree then next time you get robbed, mugged, in a wreck, burglarized, assaulted, suicide in progress, murders, doa don't call 911 just handle it yourself and see how well that goes....sad sad sad see a city do that to the men and women who answer the call...from who ever and wherever it comes from for what ever reason...you call 911 we come no matter what the risk and danger it puts use in...sorry for the rant.

Right. So where do you pull it from? What you aren't seeing, what no LEO supporter or FD supporter on here is seeing is this: Police and fire are great. But there's no money. None. Piggy bank is empty. How do you propose they continue to be paid at current levels when the city, state and federal government is bankrupt?

Edit: I'm also of the mindset if there's a "suicide in progress" you're not going to get there in time. Let them thin themselves out