to the thieves that stole all my christmas presents this morning out of my car,

[Nash B.]

There is a function where an Admin can make the Moderators able to see who created the tags. At least there is under thread edit mode.

Did you learn that from Google?

Phycotexan??

No

[Blame Canada]

Till this day I dont know what xmas presents have to do with this holiday...I mean I give them out and receive them but what do they have to do with J.C

Jesus likes presents.

[ceyko]

How ya know it was someone on this forum?

[The King]

Till this day I dont know what xmas presents have to do with this holiday...I mean I give them out and receive them but what do they have to do with J.C

Perhaps they represent the gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh presented by the wise men to Jesus when He was born.

Matthew 2:1,11 (KJV)
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

[Nash B.]

I've never been gifted any of that

[The King]

I've never been gifted any of that

Maybe wise men have determined that you don't rate such extravagant gifts.

[Nash B.]

Maybe the so-called wise men aren't all that wise?

[Juiced4v]

Perhaps they represent the gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh presented by the wise men to Jesus when He was born.

Matthew 2:1,11 (KJV)
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

But the pastor at Covenant Church said that Jesus was not born on Xmas day...

[The King]

But the pastor at Covenant Church said that Jesus was not born on Xmas day...

Matthew doesn't specify a particular day, rather he says "......when Jesus was born......"

[Juiced4v]

Matthew doesn't specify a particular day, rather he says "......when Jesus was born......"

turn...so thats why I dont understand why on 12/25...anyway let it be I guess..

[The King]

turn...so thats why I dont understand why on 12/25...anyway let it be I guess..

I have read before that some scholars consider that Jesus was conceived and crucified at the same time of the year. The Gospels are much more specific about the time of Jesus' death and Resurrection than they are about His birth, and the date of His death has been determined by these scholars to be March 25 on our current calendars.

Thus, as stated in the Apostles' Creed:
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit
born of the virgin Mary.
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

If "conceived by the Holy Spirit" and "crucified" indeed did occur on the same calendar date, that would explain the celebration of Jesus' birth being on December 25.

[Stunter Bob]

how did this turn into a religious thread?

[Juiced4v]

how did this turn into a religious thread?

Sorry my fault

[Txstang1]

how did this turn into a religious thread?

Yea it did, GOD DAMNIT !!!

[The King]

This thread turnabout couldn't have happened to a nicer guy than the O.P., lol