TX DPS Helicopter Shooting

[CJ]

They is still dead.

That'll teach them, fucking immigrants!

[Baron Von Crowder]

So what's the latest on the story? Any news?

They is still dead.

[CJ]

So what's the latest on the story? Any news?

[The King]

If The King agrees with you, you can pretty much bet that your stance is flawed.

That has to be nothing less than a compliment, considering the source.

And you're right, I'm a fool for arguing with someone who doesn't bother to directly argue what is said, and instead tries to pick and pull at everything except for the argument as stated.

In the case of this thread if you wish to consider yourself a fool, there will be no argument there.

[YALE]

Drive across the border and run from the cops there.

Excellent red herring.

[BradM]

someone who doesn't bother to directly argue what is said, and instead tries to pick and pull at everything except for the argument as stated.

Quoted for yearly irony allotment!

[ThreeFingerPete]

Drive across the border and run from the cops there.

The result would mimic what happened here.

This^^^

If The King agrees with you, you can pretty much bet that your stance is flawed.

That's all I've been trying to get you to understand. Instead of acknowledging that, you kept dancing around it. It didn't make me look like a fool, sure did make one out of you though.

Because you chose to try to split hairs instead of using your fucking head. It's plainly obvious that Police departments have rules regarding the use of deadly force that in almost every circumstance are written about immediate threats, not whether or not someone is suspected of a crime. The fact that they generally were suspected of a crime is irrelevant once they engage an officer in violence. Apparently being a former cop didn't help you remember that one. And you're right, I'm a fool for arguing with someone who doesn't bother to directly argue what is said, and instead tries to pick and pull at everything except for the argument as stated.

[BradM]

Do you think that I don't understand that justified shootings are against "suspects"?

That's all I've been trying to get you to understand. Instead of acknowledging that, you kept dancing around it. It didn't make me look like a fool, sure did make one out of you though.

[The King]

Anyone driving like a jackass, endangering the lives of others while fleeing the police and headed towards a foreign country that is potentially carrying a load of drugs should be shot and killed. Especially if they appear to either be terrorists, drug dealers, traffickers or otherwise people that intend to harm Americans.

This^^^

[YALE]

Anyone driving like a jackass, endangering the lives of others while fleeing the police and headed towards a foreign country that is potentially carrying a load of drugs should be shot and killed. Especially if they appear to either be terrorists, drug dealers, traffickers or otherwise people that intend to harm Americans.

I guess the founding fathers and I are just going to differ with you on that one.

[Baron Von Crowder]

So everyone running from the cops needs to be shot as a matter of course? I can't agree with that.

Drive across the border and run from the cops there.

[BP]

So everyone running from the cops needs to be shot as a matter of course? I can't agree with that.

Anyone driving like a jackass, endangering the lives of others while fleeing the police and headed towards a foreign country that is potentially carrying a load of drugs should be shot and killed. Especially if they appear to either be terrorists, drug dealers, traffickers or otherwise people that intend to harm Americans.

[YALE]

Even citizens with a CHL can legally use lethal force to stop someone who is endangering someone else's life. How would this be any different for a law officer? They were driving recklessly, fleeing from the police and endangering everyone else on the road as well as their passengers. It's not like a spike strip or ramming the vehicle would have done anything more to protect anyone involved.

So everyone running from the cops needs to be shot as a matter of course? I can't agree with that.

[BP]

That doesn't change the legality of it.

Even citizens with a CHL can legally use lethal force to stop someone who is endangering someone else's life. How would this be any different for a law officer? They were driving recklessly, fleeing from the police and endangering everyone else on the road as well as their passengers. It's not like a spike strip or ramming the vehicle would have done anything more to protect anyone involved.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Should police shoot people that are not suspected of committing a crime? People who are not suspects?

They do that more than enough.

PEOPLE IN THE ACT OF COMMITTING A CRIME ARE SUSPECTED OF COMMITTING A CRIME UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Do you think that I don't understand that justified shootings are against "suspects"? Being suspected of a crime is not grounds for being shot. People are not/should not be shot solely because they are suspected of a crime.