DammitSteve now stiffing waiters?

[Chili]

I hate when I have to over tip when I know some dick face I'm with is only going to tip 10%. I tip 15% when I get shitty service.

I will do 10% for marginal service but for crappy service I will leave a buck or something really low. With the intent that they get the idea. Good service I do 20%, which is my most common amount. Fantastic service I'll do 25% - 30% if the tab is over $50 or so, if less I'll do between 50% and 100% (high end if my tab is like $20).

If there is a pre-calculated 18% I will leave that for anything up to good service, and will add to it if it was great service.

[BradM]

when i work in a bar for a short while, i was told by a regular that" Your not getting a tip, cause your not a girl."

That happened to me once! I grabbed his beer, threw it in the garbage and told him to get the fuck out. No refund. It was fun to be the owner.

[lincolnboy]

when i work in a bar for a short while, i was told by a regular that" Your not getting a tip, cause your not a girl."

[BradM]

I hate when I have to over tip when I know some dick face I'm with is only going to tip 10%. I tip 15% when I get shitty service.

[Big A]

agree. also looks like the inks are different too?

*DFWM writing dectectives at work.. stand back*

The server probably made notes on some or all of the checks to help keep them separate with one pen, and then had different pens on each when they handed them out.

[OreoStang]

I dont mind mandatory tip on big tables. Sounds fair but i also believe u work for ur money. Have a great personality and be good at ur job. I dont run them like a slave but i have tipped plenty 100 percent times cause they are a great worker and i have also tipped nothing cause they suxed

[Cooter]

If I get gratted, I still tip more because that's how I roll.

People who under-tip have shitty karma

[bcoop]

Man I'm glad I haven't done that in years. The extra money was nice, but people are fucking shitty.


All the places I worked at were privately owned, so the 6-8 or more rule was up to the waiter's discretion. At chain places though, it's non negotiable. Waiter can't make the call, and in most cases, neither can the manager. Most of the time, I let them do the tip, and came out ahead. With the exception of the church crowd, middle easterners, teens, and black people.

I never budged on those.


What a person tips, is 100% of the time, a dead on indicator of their character.

[bcoop]

Church people, blacks, and teenagers.

You're forgetting middle easterners.

[stevo]

You know that the servers do not make the rules, right? They have to follow what the company says to do.

I'm not sure what that has to do with any of my comments.

You wouldn't only pay $10 for a $30 steak just because you didn't like it.

I would not pay anything for a steak if I didn't like it. I would not tip if a waiter/waitress gave horrible service. I do not expect a restaurant to give five star food, but if the food is horrible or cold, or takes an inappropriate length of time to get to the table, it isn't my fault. While the preparation of the food isn't the fault of the waitstaff, they are still responsible for it and can make up for it in several ways.

If the cook prepared it the way it's supposed to be prepared and the server did their part, you should pay the price that is listed on their menu.

Big "if" there. A tip is not a pre-negociated gimme, it is a bonus given if the customer is satisfied with the service given. if the waitstaff does a satisfactory job, they are given the tip, if not, the tip is withheld. When the tip becomes mandatory, there is no reason for the waitstaff to give satisfactory service. Not only that, but there are various levels of the quality of service, and each level can and should be rewarded with an appropriate tip. Setting a manditory tip removes the ability of the customer to reward the waitstaff for going above and beyond the usual service.

Automatic gratuity it always shown on the menu if it is their policy-it's not a surprise.


Exactly.

Where did I say it was a surprise? I said that I wouldn't return....

Stevo

[BMCSean]

You don't have to pay the gratuity. Our menu says 15% on 8 or more but we always leave it up to the customer. Our servers always come out ahead.

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I've been meaning to ask what restaurant you are at, I'm in Sanger on Fridays.

[YALE]

I've never waited tables before but if there's a big table, that's lots of people and they're having to devote quite a bit of time to just your table, so they aren't available to wait other tables hence losing out on possible tips. I don't see a problem with mandatory tipping amounts as long as it's reasonable.

This. Where multiple waiters would've covered multiple tables, you've got a single waiter covering multiple tables. Fair's fair.

[Leah]

If a place automatically charged me 18% for a tip, I wouldn't ever step back in their door. I give tips based on service, when a place automatically takes it from you and gives it to the waitstaff it removes the motivation for the waitstaff to do a decent job. Fuck that.

Stevo

You know that the servers do not make the rules, right? They have to follow what the company says to do. You wouldn't only pay $10 for a $30 steak just because you didn't like it. If the cook prepared it the way it's supposed to be prepared and the server did their part, you should pay the price that is listed on their menu. Automatic gratuity it always shown on the menu if it is their policy-it's not a surprise.

Oh, and it doesn't take the motivation away-that encourages you to do better and get a tip above and beyond the auto grat.

That's when you get the Manager involved.

Exactly.

[stevo]

Sure, Stevo and Magnus are having a lovers quarrel in front of my table and now I have lost my appetite. I need a refund or a clever one liner immediately. Don't force me to get corporate involved.

Jelly?

Stevo

[fordracing19]

You don't have to pay the gratuity. Our menu says 15% on 8 or more but we always leave it up to the customer. Our servers always come out ahead.

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