with the short shorts and neckerchief.....

[racrguy]

Lol at the some of these replies, I would have more of an issue with my kids going to church alone.

No shit. If you don't like gays, that's your prerogative, but don't try to paint them in a light that isn't true.

I don't have kids so I'm not going to sit here and pretend to have some sort of logical answer. However, I do remember someone having a pretty big meltdown in Canada over this subject a few years back, iirc. Now I'm going to have to go look for it, damn it.

[ELVIS]

Paul, teaching your son that people aren't to be looked up to because they're gay is kind of shitty. It's totally your business, but you can't be accepting and disapproving when it's basically something that doesn't have anything to do with you. If you don't accept gays as equals, then be clear about that. Your opinion is valid either way. Either teach him to be unnaccepting of gays, or teach him to be accepting of them, but don't muddy the water unnecessarily. Also, odds are the den mother won't be gay, and neither will the scout leader, so there's really not a point in making a decision until you come to it. If all his buddies are joining, and he wants to join, and you're cool with troop leadership, what's the problem?

yolo....

i stated that is not the role model i want him looking up to. Can we agree life is easier and you prolly have to deal with less shit being a straight man? thats all i want for Jr, just the easiest, best path i can provide for him until he is old enough to make his own decisions. I do everything i am humanly capable of to be the best man i can for my son. i am looking in the best interest of my son. i dont know anything about being gay, i do know about being a grown man that is respectful and responsible for his actions. that said maybe thats the reason i coach Jr's baseball, soccer, and basketball.
and for christs sake geor is gayer than a bag of unicorn dicks but i still love the guy. please dont paint me as a hatemonger.

god bless.

[Baron Von Crowder]

I was a Boy Scout. It was a lot more hardcore then than it is now about the gays. Having said that, it was only an issue with guys being gay. We had a lesbian leader, but she proved her worth by climbing Mount Kilimanjaro. She went with us to Philmont.
She was woman enough to care for us, but tough enough to laugh when we were being whiny kids.

When I was older, a gay couple I'm friends with adopted a nephew who was being subjected to a shitty, slave life by his hetero parents in California. It was gruesome for him growing up in that environment. He is permanently scarred and continues to show signs of being a general fuck up.
I became a Scout Master/confidant to this gay couple in order to help this boy grow into a man. They were aware of the stance and did everything they could to steer clear of upsetting the balance. The fact that his Uncles could not attend very many meetings, awards ceremonies, or any camping trips further damaged him.
This kid was shown real family love, but having to hide it in a setting where he could learn the basics of being a good man did not help his already terrible situation.

I'm glad they are starting to accept gays in the Boy Scouts. I'm worried about how they'll handle it, though. Religion is a big element to Boy Scouts, that's another big hurdle. One of the gentlemen in this gay couple happened to be ordained with at least 2 degrees in Theology. Not sure where I'm going with that tidbit of info, but seriously. Excluding gays is retarded.

Oh, and most pedo's are heterosexual.

ding ding ding

[Cobraman]

[VaderTT]

Lol at some of these replies, I would have more of an issue with my kids going to church alone.

[Snatch Napkin]

I was a Boy Scout. It was a lot more hardcore then than it is now about the gays. Having said that, it was only an issue with guys being gay. We had a lesbian leader, but she proved her worth by climbing Mount Kilimanjaro. She went with us to Philmont.
She was woman enough to care for us, but tough enough to laugh when we were being whiny kids.

When I was older, a gay couple I'm friends with adopted a nephew who was being subjected to a shitty, slave life by his hetero parents in California. It was gruesome for him growing up in that environment. He is permanently scarred and continues to show signs of being a general fuck up.
I became a Scout Master/confidant to this gay couple in order to help this boy grow into a man. They were aware of the stance and did everything they could to steer clear of upsetting the balance. The fact that his Uncles could not attend very many meetings, awards ceremonies, or any camping trips further damaged him.
This kid was shown real family love, but having to hide it in a setting where he could learn the basics of being a good man did not help his already terrible situation.

I'm glad they are starting to accept gays in the Boy Scouts. I'm worried about how they'll handle it, though. Religion is a big element to Boy Scouts, that's another big hurdle. One of the gentlemen in this gay couple happened to be ordained with at least 2 degrees in Theology. Not sure where I'm going with that tidbit of info, but seriously. Excluding gays is retarded.

Oh, and most pedo's are heterosexual.

[A+]

There are already plenty of outlets for kids to be exposed to gay people and behavior. Scouts is an organization where you leave your kids completely in the care of other adults, often for the first time in their life. So ask yourself, how comfortable are you sending your 5yr old boy into the woods with a gay man for a week?

honestly, i wouldnt feel comfortable having my kids go into the woods with ANY man without me being present. Id probably feel better if it was a gay guy since they usually go for other adult gay guys.

[Lason]

There are already plenty of outlets for kids to be exposed to gay people and behavior. Scouts is an organization where you leave your kids completely in the care of other adults, often for the first time in their life. So ask yourself, how comfortable are you sending your 5yr old boy into the woods with a gay man for a week?

Once again, I personally would have no problems with it. You know there are gay teachers in schools right?

[Binky]

@ 5 yrs old - that was cub scouts and you always had to have a parent with you for overnight trips.

It wasn't until junior-high to high school that we even did multi nights.

[Kimmypie]

I'm willing to bet that there will be all kinds of people watching & checks in place to keep the kids "safe" from the gays if they are allowed. Probably more than they watch for actual child molesters & a damn site more than churches do to watch pedos. They know that people will be itching for something to happen so they can do a gotcha.

[Sgt Beavis]

my thoughts are best described as acceptance not approval when it comes to this matter. jsut wondering where the braintrust sat on this issue....

god bless.

I'm in agreement with you on this. However I would consider allowing my kid in the troop if the leader was morally sound. Yes, I do believe gay people can be morally sound outside of the fact that they are gay. My Mom is gay and she ran the full gambit of immorality at one point of her life and grew to be a fairly moral person in the last 20 years. I know a gay couple in the Lake Cities that just adopted a child from the same agency that my wife and I used and they are of very high moral character. Christ COMMANDS us to love others. He didn't give any special qualification with that.

The only place I would draw the line is if they tried to get approval of their lifestyle choice from my kid. I think I'd have to have a serious talk with them at that point.

I guess it's better than having a priest as the troop leader.

ZING! And well deserved.....

To many, the difference between gay and pedo are zilch.
.

Please don't go full retard on us...

[Baron Von Crowder]

There are already plenty of outlets for kids to be exposed to gay people and behavior. Scouts is an organization where you leave your kids completely in the care of other adults, often for the first time in their life. So ask yourself, how comfortable are you sending your 5yr old boy into the woods with a gay man for a week?

Because if he is gay he could be a pedophile as well?

[46Tbird]

because their kid might catch the gay germ? Or fear that they might be doing gay stuff around them?

There are already plenty of outlets for kids to be exposed to gay people and behavior. Scouts is an organization where you leave your kids completely in the care of other adults, often for the first time in their life. So ask yourself, how comfortable are you sending your 5yr old boy into the woods with a gay man for a week?

[A+]

Most parents consider the scouts to be a place where you can keep your boy with trustworthy, earnest adult role models. This may come as a shock, but most parents are hetero (DUH) and don't want their kids spending time with gays as role models for their children. Simple as that.

because their kid might catch the gay germ? Or fear that they might be doing gay stuff around them?