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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    I really don't think you're giving this story the critical eye it deserves.

    Of course. It's sacrilege to demand photos of murdered children, isn't it? Think about how that would play into a hoax. You wouldn't even have to fake a crime scene when you know that no decent human being would insist on seeing it.

    Brent, what actual evidence have you seen that makes you so sure something happened? Has there been even one image leaked? A bullet hole through a window or something? Security cam footage of the guy showing up at the school or even driving through an intersection on his way there to establish a timeline? This is a town with a median income over $100k, do you really think there were NO cameras on an elementary school campus? How about the shooter's autopsy photos, there's always a picture of that right? How about just eyewitness testimonials? There's NOTHING, dude. Nothing that lends credence to the narrative they've given. And like you said, it's blasphemy to ask to see the evidence.

    I guess you'll just believe anything they tell you. I prefer to weigh evidence and make judgements based on that information. And so far there is no evidence.
    You know, essentially you and Michael Moore are asking for the same thing, except for completely different agendas. Would you support the photos being released to provide evidence that it occurred in lieu of the ammunition it would provide gun ban advocates?

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  • 46Tbird
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    I really don't think you're giving this story the critical eye it deserves.
    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Have any of you people thought for one second, that maybe, just maybe crime scene photos haven't been released because they are photos of minors?
    Of course. It's sacrilege to demand photos of murdered children, isn't it? Think about how that would play into a hoax. You wouldn't even have to fake a crime scene when you know that no decent human being would insist on seeing it.

    Brent, what actual evidence have you seen that makes you so sure something happened? Has there been even one image leaked? A bullet hole through a window or something? Security cam footage of the guy showing up at the school or even driving through an intersection on his way there to establish a timeline? This is a town with a median income over $100k, do you really think there were NO cameras on an elementary school campus? How about the shooter's autopsy photos, there's always a picture of that right? How about just eyewitness testimonials? There's NOTHING, dude. Nothing that lends credence to the narrative they've given. And like you said, it's blasphemy to ask to see the evidence.

    I guess you'll just believe anything they tell you. I prefer to weigh evidence and make judgements based on that information. And so far there is no evidence.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Let's flip the script and think for a second what it would actually take to get a conversation started on repealing the second amendment: lots of blonde hair, blue eyed little kids shot by a madman.


    Sure, that's what it would take. But, lol. I think you give this government more credit than it is due. The amount of people that it would take, to keep quiet and never say a word, has to be well in to the 200s. You're talking private citizens. Not classified info and military. I don't think this government can successfully coordinate something like that.

    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Just to be clear, I don't think anyone was shot at Sandy Hook... I don't buy into conspiracy theories,
    Sounds to me like you do.


    Have any of you people thought for one second, that maybe, just maybe crime scene photos haven't been released because they are photos of minors?

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  • Forever_frost
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    Conflicting reports of how many gunmen, his relation to the school, the guy in the woods that magically disappeared, what weapon he used, the coroner laughing and making jokes before the meeting...

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  • Sean88gt
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Let's flip the script and think for a second what it would actually take to get a conversation started on repealing the second amendment: lots of blonde hair, blue eyed little kids shot by a madman.

    Just to be clear, I don't think anyone was shot at Sandy Hook. I don't believe a single photo of ten kids walking out of a school, and hundreds of cars and people congregated around a parking lot, constitutes evidence of a shooting. I don't buy into conspiracy theories, but I also can't find any tangible evidence of a crime in this case. However it immediately became the rallying cry of the gun grabbers. Just sayin.
    Sandy Hook also seems like it got really quiet really quick when questions started getting asked.

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  • SS Junk
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    But the media is your only source for information regarding what happened way up there!
    Fucking potheads... LOL...

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  • 46Tbird
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Interesting to hear you say this, since you are always blasting conspiracy theory crackpots.
    Let's flip the script and think for a second what it would actually take to get a conversation started on repealing the second amendment: lots of blonde hair, blue eyed little kids shot by a madman.

    Just to be clear, I don't think anyone was shot at Sandy Hook. I don't believe a single photo of ten kids walking out of a school, and hundreds of cars and people congregated around a parking lot, constitutes evidence of a shooting. I don't buy into conspiracy theories, but I also can't find any tangible evidence of a crime in this case. However it immediately became the rallying cry of the gun grabbers. Just sayin.

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  • naynay
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    But the media is your only source for information regarding what happened way up there!

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Interesting to hear you say this, since you are always blasting conspiracy theory crackpots.


    There isn't anything suspicious about it, IMO. The media fucked it all up, but that doesn't make it suspicious. That's just the media sensationalizing and doing what they do for ratings.
    Fast and Furious was real. This administration has been caught undermining our laws and manipulating violence to benefit them. I would not be surprised if the type of weapon used was misrepresented to help move their anti-gun agenda forward. I don't think the actual act had anything to do with the government. I just think it was a great opportunity to push an agenda that they might not have been able to pass up.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    I think the there is a decent amount of people that will agree there is some degree of suspicion surrounding the government's account of Sandy Hook.
    Interesting to hear you say this, since you are always blasting conspiracy theory crackpots.


    There isn't anything suspicious about it, IMO. The media fucked it all up, but that doesn't make it suspicious. That's just the media sensationalizing and doing what they do for ratings.

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  • CJ
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    I think the there is a decent amount of people that will agree there is some degree of suspicion surrounding the government's account of Sandy Hook. There is a great deal of conflicting information that's been released. It could very well be attributed to the shit ass profession we call journalism nowadays, but given the current administration's history of deceit I think there is grounds reasonable suspicion regarding some of the facts.
    Last edited by CJ; 05-13-2013, 12:50 PM.

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  • Forever_frost
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    That statement has been proven wrong repeatedly. Love these idiots though

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  • ceyko
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    Originally posted by naynay View Post
    are they in backwoods texas, or a wealthy neighborhood in Connecticut?
    I can think of some in Dallas County and some where there may be cameras but that does not mean...

    1. They are on or working
    2. Logging their feed anywhere

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by Mr_Fiux View Post
    Everyone knows that there is a CCTV at EVERY entrance of EVERY school in the U.S. At least public ones. Right at the entrance.
    Just goes to show how ignorant you really are. No, there is not CCTV at EVERY entrance of EVERY school in the US. I'd say a high estimate is about 30% of schools have those, at least in the territory I cover. I'm in and out of schools every day. You are either really stupid, or you're talking out of your ass and presenting opinions as facts. Which is it?


    Originally posted by Mr_Fiux View Post
    et they can't identify the shooter because they haven't any video evidence? WTF.


    Can't identify the shooter? He was identified the day the shootings took place. Are you fucking serious?

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  • naynay
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    Your gonna have an aneurism

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