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    If you’re at all the slightest bit skeptical of the emerging capability of hackers to take control of your electronic devices, then don’t watch this video. Why? Because you may never drive your car again after you see how a couple of government-funded tech guys were able to hack into, and take control of, one reporter’s vehicle — while he was driving it.

    The experiment was the product of Forbes reporter Andy Greenberg, who wanted to see just how vulnerable cars are to hacking by Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek, two researchers who reseived an $80,000 grant from the Pentagon’s research wing, DARPA, to study such vulnerabilities. The scary answer — shown in a video report — to how vulnerable is “very.”

    Take for example that Miller, while plugged into the car’s computer system in the back seat — could do things like change how much fuel the car appears to have, alter the speedometer reading, actually turn the steering wheel, honk the horn, and even mess with the brakes:


    As I drove their vehicles for more than an hour, Miller and Valasek showed that they’ve reverse-engineered enough of the software of the Escape and the Toyota Prius (both the 2010 model) to demonstrate a range of nasty surprises: everything from annoyances like uncontrollably blasting the horn to serious hazards like slamming on the Prius’ brakes at high speeds. They sent commands from their laptops that killed power steering, spoofed the GPS and made pathological liars out of speedometers and odometers. Finally they directed me out to a country road, where Valasek showed that he could violently jerk the Prius’ steering at any speed, threatening to send us into a cornfield or a head-on collision.


    “It’s quite terrifying when you don’t have brakes, right?” Miller jokes at one point. He then proceeds to turn them off, sending the car into the weeds.

    “That’s the attack that crashed me into my garage,” Valasek admits.

    “When you lose faith that a car will do what you tell it to do, it really changes your whole view of how the thing works,” Miller tells Greenberg. Here’s the video:



    Miller is a 40-year-old security engineer at Twitter and Valasek is the 31-year-old director of security intelligence at IOActive, a consulting firm in Seattle. The duo plans on releasing their findings at the Defcon hacker conference in Las Vegas, August 1-4.

    And don’t think that just because the duo hacked the controls while physically in the car that you should feel safe. Prior research has shown wireless access is as easy as using a car’s CD player [emphasis added]:

    But Miller and Valasek’s work assumed physical access to the cars’ computers for a reason: Gaining wireless access to a car’s network is old news. A team of researchers at the University of Washington and the University of California, San Diego, experimenting on a sedan from an unnamed company in 2010, found that they could wirelessly penetrate the same critical systems Miller and Valasek targeted using the car’s OnStar-like cellular connection, Bluetooth bugs, a rogue Android app that synched with the car’s network from the driver’s smartphone or even a malicious audio file on a CD in the car’s stereo system.

    “Academics have shown you can get remote code execution,” Valasek, told Greenberg. “We showed you can do a lot of crazy things once you’re inside.”

    Forbes sums up just what that consists of in a graphic:

    Forbes shows how a car can be hacked
    Forbes posted a graphic showing exactly what the hackers did during the experiment. (Source: Forbes)
    The capability comes at a time when some are theorizing the car-accident death of journalist Michael Hastings is suspicious. Hastings is the former Rolling Stone reporter who died in a fiery car wreck this summer after apparently sending an email that he was working on a big story. He is also the journalist whose reporting led to the resignation of Gen. Stanley McChrystal.

    To be clear, neither Forbes nor the researchers insinuated their work could explain the crash. But many will certainly find it interesting.

    “Imagine you’re driving down a highway at 80 ,” Valasek tells Greenberg in his report. “You’re going into the car next to you or into oncoming traffic. That’s going to be bad times.”

    Read the fascinating report from Forbes.
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  • #2
    I think I'll stick with my old cars.

    CN

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    • #3
      I have no doubt you can hack a car, it seems more likely that someone would try to take down an aircraft or crash some ships though. Cars currently on the road have manual over rides for the brakes and as far as I know they can all be powered off manually some how. You can't hack a physical switch and relay any more than you can hack a PC that's not powered up.

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      • #4
        What brought this up was a reporter called his friends saying he had a big story on the government and then his car ran into a tree at high speed
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        • #5
          I wouls use this to turn up the Treble on Elvis's 90s rap.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
            What brought this up was a reporter called his friends saying he had a big story on the government and then his car ran into a tree at high speed
            lmao
            WRX

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            • #7
              Screw all the electronic gadgetry in cars today.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                What brought this up was a reporter called his friends saying he had a big story on the government and then his car ran into a tree at high speed
                yeah thats what i was thinking about when i read this article, i 100% suspect something like this was the culprit.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BP View Post
                  I have no doubt you can hack a car, it seems more likely that someone would try to take down an aircraft or crash some ships though. Cars currently on the road have manual over rides for the brakes and as far as I know they can all be powered off manually some how. You can't hack a physical switch and relay any more than you can hack a PC that's not powered up.
                  If you have remote login/start, even that is possible.



                  Honestly, being hardwired to the car's ECM isn't really a hack.
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                  • #10
                    they couldn't change the radio on my Rivi! And that’s all they could do on my ranger. My new stang, well they could rev the motor but it’s a stick so I'd just push in the clutch. All in all, a drone strike or a sniper still works better.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by matts5.0 View Post
                      yeah thats what i was thinking about when i read this article, i 100% suspect something like this was the culprit.
                      Because that's way easier than hiring some hooker to shoot heroin into his arm all night, and it'd raise less questions. If spooks want you dead they probably won't use a method that looks suspicious.

                      His death is further evidence that hauling ass through the suburbs at 4:30 in the morning isn't a good idea.

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                      • #12
                        Annnnnd this is why frost now drives a model-A lol

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                        • #13
                          Lol @ the use of the word "hack"

                          It reminds me of people when they say their facebook was "HACKED!!!"
                          Oh, somebody just knows your password, or they walked up to your computer while you were still signed in.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dangerous_sep View Post
                            Annnnnd this is why frost now drives a model-A lol
                            I drive vehicles where I am fairly confident that if someone's not in the car, they're not taking it
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