Unpaid NTTA tolls can land you in jail.

[mstng86]

Pay your fucking debts!

Lanisters always pay their debts sir!

[Rick Modena]

I wasn't bitching, just correcting. Find me a house my size in a neighborhood as nice with as good a public school district and the same amenities nearby, all for the same price I paid and I might consider moving. Until then I'll keep paying tolls and correcting people when they think that the tollways move any faster than the regular highways.

I don't have don't have to do shit, I told you to do it. You're not correcting me, you justifying your 'bitching' You choose to live far from your job, you don't want to live in near crime and want nice schools, well I have news for you, it cost money to live in affluent hoods. Don't like the traffic, MOVE.
You're not correcting me, I've lived in Dallas most of my life, back when 75 was two fucking lanes up the Texas/OK state line, I've driven through all of its major improvements up until they built the Tollways. They move faster than the freeways (wrecks and construction not withstanding) I donlt drive in traffic, my J-O-B is near where I live so I donlt have too, I have been caught in 635 sitting in traffic barley moving and I've been in 35-40 mph hour Tollway traffic and I prefer the latter, even if it costs money to use them and I PAY my way...

[bcoop]

and eventually the tolls are supposed to go away in most cases.

Yeah, that's not ever going to happen.

[Ratt]

No shit. And now it has started to spread south, with 161. I DO avoid them at all costs, but there are some areas of dfw that aren't practical to avoid them. I'll never understand why some people are so eager to just give their money away to the government, and the lengths they'll go to to justify it or avoid actually thinking about it.

Ahem.

If it were a government owned toll-road, it would probably be cheaper and eventually the tolls are supposed to go away in most cases. Originally toll-roads were supposed to be used to retroactively pay for roads that were being built instead of raising taxes. The NTTA is just a money-grab.

Have you ever driven anywhere in the North Dallas/Plano/Frisco area? Toll roads have to be used, just about.

No shit. And now it has started to spread south, with 161. I DO avoid them at all costs, but there are some areas of dfw that aren't practical to avoid them. I'll never understand why some people are so eager to just give their money away to the government, and the lengths they'll go to to justify it or avoid actually thinking about it.

[bcoop]

Who the hell is held at gunpoint and forced to use the toll road?

Have you ever driven anywhere in the North Dallas/Plano/Frisco area? Toll roads have to be used, just about.

[Ratt]

Who said I liked to pay for it? I'm just not retarded to think I won't be charged/billed/summoned/arrested for using it, and not paying the dues.
Don't like it, don't use it. Go lobby against it if you don't like it. Stop pissing and moaning when everything you should know/expect is going to happen, ends up happening. Treat it like every other fucking business. Don't like it, don't give them money.

No one is forced to use it. Don't like sitting in traffic? Adjust the times you leave. Get a fucking gym membership near you job and work out before/after your shift. You'll miss traffic, and get your work out done.

Who the hell is held at gunpoint and forced to use the toll road?

Like I said, I don't mind paying the tolls. It's either sit in a long, straight line of traffic and pay tolls, or wind through surface streets to 635, stopping every 1/4 to 1/2 mile at a light.

[CJ]

Pay your fucking debts!

[CexMashean]

Who said I liked to pay for it? I'm just not retarded to think I won't be charged/billed/summoned/arrested for using it, and not paying the dues.
Don't like it, don't use it. Go lobby against it if you don't like it. Stop pissing and moaning when everything you should know/expect is going to happen, ends up happening. Treat it like every other fucking business. Don't like it, don't give them money.

No one is forced to use it. Don't like sitting in traffic? Adjust the times you leave. Get a fucking gym membership near you job and work out before/after your shift. You'll miss traffic, and get your work out done.

Who the hell is held at gunpoint and forced to use the toll road?

[Ratt]

OK, sorry about where you live, move closer to work and stop yer bitching.

I wasn't bitching, just correcting. Find me a house my size in a neighborhood as nice with as good a public school district and the same amenities nearby, all for the same price I paid and I might consider moving. Until then I'll keep paying tolls and correcting people when they think that the tollways move any faster than the regular highways.

My shift gives me the ability to dodge it most of the time, when i have to actually go in to the office. My monthly toll usage usually comes out to $5 or less.

Well look at you, so eager to be a model citizen that pays for something you already paid for every week. I'd love to sell you a car, then let you pay me $20 a week for the privilege of using it. I wonder if there is anything else you'd like to overpay for? Maybe from now on when government buildings are put up, we can just continue to pay for their full build cost every year, you know, just for the hell of it, because they say so?

Henry, you need to put the fucking crack pipe down. You're missing the entire point of what we're talking about.

[Rick Modena]

Ummm, no. I alternate between the two from Las Colinas (work) to Frisco (home) all week and they are exactly the same.

OK, sorry about where you live, move closer to work and stop yer bitching.

[Rick Modena]

I don't care if you believe it, I'm speaking from personal experience. Mine didn't drag out nearly as long long, but $9600 really equated to about $300 in tolls.

I guess everyone's situation is different. I saw what she actually owed and I saw the bullshit fines and I also saw what she payed and it was far less than what she owe'd (minus the fines). I really don't give a fuck about the NTTA, I pay up front an I use their website to monitor what I use and so far everything is legit. I don't know what was happening before but it is a scam, but I guess if you don't monitor your usage they will charge you whatever they feel like. They are thieves, but like everything else, you pay for convenience, you know like the Fast Pass at Six Flags or making a reservation at Mi Dia's from Scratch, etc.

[Ratt]

Unless there is a wreck they flow pretty smooth at rush hour, don't believe there is a difference, go down 635 at 5:30pm on a Friday and then do it again on the Bush at the same time and your ass will be paying the MAN to drive 40 mph then to be sitting in traffic on 635 for hours.

Ummm, no. I alternate between the two from Las Colinas (work) to Frisco (home) all week and they are exactly the same.

[Rick Modena]

I would like to use this time to point out that the Dallas North Tollway, George Bush Turnpike, Sam Rayburn Tollway, and even the tolled parts of the NEW 635 are all still parking lots, and they still charge.

Unless there is a wreck they flow pretty smooth at rush hour, don't believe there is a difference, go down 635 at 5:30pm on a Friday and then do it again on the Bush at the same time and your ass will be paying the MAN to drive 40 mph then to be sitting in traffic on 635 for hours.