mike brown vs. eric garner

[Sean88gt]

All of this over the man selling a loose ciggarette, it's sad what has happened to this country.

Keep in mind, he was selling loose cigarettes while being black. That's a crime upgrade.

[ftp]

Keep in mind, he was selling loose cigarettes while being black. That's a crime upgrade.

Well in that case they should of tased him from a drone and the ground units run him over with the MRAP.

[BP]

All of this over the man selling a loose ciggarette, it's sad what has happened to this country.

It's also sad that he'd already been arrested 30+ times and resisted previously as well. Career criminals should be in jail, not on the street peddling cigarettes.

[racrguy]

Keep in mind, he was selling loose cigarettes while being black. That's a crime upgrade.

F1, for sure.

[YALE]

Yeah, don't let facts get in the way. When facts don't work on the side of your argument, start calling names and foul... That's one of the problems with some of you guys. Can't have an adult conversation with actual opinions.

Tell me again why he needed to be arrested in the first place. I still don't see it.

[ftp]

Tell me again why he needed to be arrested in the first place. I still don't see it.

Selling loosies is serious coin. I saw a Ferrari in the cops rayban reflections who had him in a chokehold, it must have been Garners sick ass whip from flipping cigs 24/7. I think this case is all about civil asset forfeiture, they wanted that rari.

[juiceweezl]

Tell me again why he needed to be arrested in the first place. I still don't see it.

Just because you disagree with a law doesn't mean it shouldn't be upheld. I think the speed limit on the tollway should be 85, but that doesn't mean I can go that without risk of a ticket...

[jluv]

Just because you disagree with a law doesn't mean it shouldn't be upheld. I think the speed limit on the tollway should be 85, but that doesn't mean I can go that without risk of a ticket...

But you can certainly go 85 on the tollway without risk of being arrested, bullied by several aggressive cops, choked, thrown to the ground, killed, etc. Well, at least in theory.

[ftp]

Just because you disagree with a law doesn't mean it shouldn't be upheld. I think the speed limit on the tollway should be 85, but that doesn't mean I can go that without risk of a ticket...

It's all about prioritizing. 85 on tollway could kill someone, selling loose ciggarettes not so much. Oh wait...

[dcs13]

Tell me again why he needed to be arrested in the first place. I still don't see it.

I agree there. I think that's not a crime they need to be dealing with. However it is a crime and they chose to arrest him. Garner decided not to cooperate.

[YALE]

Just because you disagree with a law doesn't mean it shouldn't be upheld. I think the speed limit on the tollway should be 85, but that doesn't mean I can go that without risk of a ticket...

Where does officer discretion come into play?

[dcs13]

Don't spout terms if you don't know what they mean.
"...

Here is what NY has a Negligence. We're talking Criminal here, not civil. They going to lose a civil case. But for a grand jury to file charges they have to say he at least was negligent. You tell me where it fits under here:
Criminal negligence." A person acts with criminal negligence with
respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a statute defining
an offense when he fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable
risk that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists. The
risk must be of such nature and degree that the failure to perceive it
constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a
reasonable person would observe in the situation.

[Denny]

Here is what NY has a Negligence. We're talking Criminal here, not civil. They going to lose a civil case. But for a grand jury to file charges they have to say he at least was negligent. You tell me where it fits under here:
Criminal negligence." A person acts with criminal negligence with
respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a statute defining
an offense when he fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable
risk that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists. The
risk must be of such nature and degree that the failure to perceive it
constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a
reasonable person would observe in the situation.

It came into play with Mr. Garner gasping and saying that he couldn't breathe... repeatedly. The hold could have loosened once he was on the ground and other officers on scene.

[ELVIS]

But you can certainly go 85 on the tollway without risk of being arrested, bullied by several aggressive cops, choked, thrown to the ground, killed, etc. Well, at least in theory.

100%

god bless.

[dcs13]

It came into play with Mr. Garner gasping and saying that he couldn't breathe... repeatedly. The hold could have loosened once he was on the ground and other officers on scene.

At the second he said he can't breathe is the same exact time the officers arm was removed and he put both hands on Garners head.