Explosions in China

[cool cat]

Wow! DJ points out how the Chinese government will sell out worker safety to make extra Yuan, and he's the asshole?

[CexMashean]

If you've ever made fun of any bad event, anywhere, at any time, I don't believe you get to pull the "you could be more sensitive" card when now the subject matter directly affects you.

Lets be realistic. No one here would (I'd hope not at least) wish direct harm or foul to someone's family that they do not know any personal details about. General claims regarding a society, goverment, location, etc are fair game, and should be expected on the internet.

I'm not saying it's easy to do, but some times you have to turn off your feelings sensor and not take things as personal attacks. I'm sure everyone here at the very least has no feelings, positive or negative, about the direct impact on your family. I don't believe anyone here wishes they were affected negatively by this event.

[CJ-95GT]

Imo, nothing posted has been over the top offensive. This board is known to attack any subject matter and nothing really is off limits. The members here make sure nobody goes over the top and lets them know when they do.

Ratt, I hope your family is okay and your loved ones are safe. I also hope you find the comedic value in some of these stupid post and that it helps you pull through this.

[95DRGT]

aftermath video- note containers at 1:37in

[Baron Von Crowder]

I get your point, and I see its relevance to the explosion, but it has no relevance to me and what I posted about. It's just callous and brazen to come in here with political views in a time of worry and mourning.

I would bet a large amount that the fire that led up to the explosion was caused by unsafe practices that aren't regulated properly by the Chinese government, and that the government will either find a way to pawn it off on the executives of the logistics company or just cover up the investigation's results, altogether, depending on how incriminating it is for them; however, that has nothing to do with being insensitive towards the victims, families, friends, and loved ones affected directly by the explosion or by the collateral damage resulting from the explosion. If, and when, the results of an investigation come back and it proves to be related to China's inept safety regulations and abhorrent labor laws, then I'll be one of the first to start joining in with people and pointing fingers, but now is not the time for that.

Nobody made fun of the people affected in the West, Texas fertilizer plant explosion, and nobody made fun of the people affected by the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, so why is this any different? Regardless of the motives behind any of these disasters, it tells a lot about a person who can come away with no guilt after making racist, prejudiced, or just plain derogatory remarks about a culture who has just gone through, and especially is still going through, a situation like any of the ones above.

I have nothing against you, hold no ill-will towards you, and generally think you're one of the more level-headed people that hang around here. I just wanted to explain why I felt the need to post what I did.

I understand that you are emotional, I would be too. I would like to point out that I wasnt making fun of anyone's death, nor did I even post in this thread, until you posted up about everyone being insensitive.

You know as well as everyone else how this is going to go down. The question is: are you willing to put in some work to do anything about it? What are you DOING? If it stops at calling people on the wild wild west of internet forums how insensitive they are, I cant help you. Dont misplace your anger.

[Ratt]

Nope, he's 100% spot on.

The sad reality is that the Chinese government doesnt care about it's people, they are a low cost workforce and expendable. Nobody wants to do anything about it, and with China owning a large amount of other country's debt, plus the huge amount of cheap manufacturing that they do for the rest of the world, nobody will.

I didnt say anything to any effect close to what he accused me of, just that he should be throwing a fit about the working conditions and general attitude of the Chinese government.

I get your point, and I see its relevance to the explosion, but it has no relevance to me and what I posted about. It's just callous and brazen to come in here with political views in a time of worry and mourning.

I would bet a large amount that the fire that led up to the explosion was caused by unsafe practices that aren't regulated properly by the Chinese government, and that the government will either find a way to pawn it off on the executives of the logistics company or just cover up the investigation's results, altogether, depending on how incriminating it is for them; however, that has nothing to do with being insensitive towards the victims, families, friends, and loved ones affected directly by the explosion or by the collateral damage resulting from the explosion. If, and when, the results of an investigation come back and it proves to be related to China's inept safety regulations and abhorrent labor laws, then I'll be one of the first to start joining in with people and pointing fingers, but now is not the time for that.

Nobody made fun of the people affected in the West, Texas fertilizer plant explosion, and nobody made fun of the people affected by the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, so why is this any different? Regardless of the motives behind any of these disasters, it tells a lot about a person who can come away with no guilt after making racist, prejudiced, or just plain derogatory remarks about a culture who has just gone through, and especially is still going through, a situation like any of the ones above.

I have nothing against you, hold no ill-will towards you, and generally think you're one of the more level-headed people that hang around here. I just wanted to explain why I felt the need to post what I did.

[jw33]

I hope everyone is OK.

[silverranger]

How's that?

damnit DJ
Just say hope everyone is ok

[Baron Von Crowder]

The Chinese government has nothing to do with your complete lack of empathy. Justify however you like, you're being a insensitive dick.

How's that?

[Big A]

Nope, he's 100% spot on.

The sad reality is that the Chinese government doesnt care about it's people, they are a low cost workforce and expendable. Nobody wants to do anything about it, and with China owning a large amount of other country's debt, plus the huge amount of cheap manufacturing that they do for the rest of the world, nobody will.

I didnt say anything to any effect close to what he accused me of, just that he should be throwing a fit about the working conditions and general attitude of the Chinese government.

The Chinese government has nothing to do with your complete lack of empathy. Justify however you like, you're being a insensitive dick.

[Baron Von Crowder]

That's a bullshit cop out, and no justification for being an ass.

Nope, he's 100% spot on.

The sad reality is that the Chinese government doesnt care about it's people, they are a low cost workforce and expendable. Nobody wants to do anything about it, and with China owning a large amount of other country's debt, plus the huge amount of cheap manufacturing that they do for the rest of the world, nobody will.

I didnt say anything to any effect close to what he accused me of, just that he should be throwing a fit about the working conditions and general attitude of the Chinese government.

[cool cat]

Many thought and pwayer to those inovolve.

[Moose242]

That's a bullshit cop out, and no justification for being an ass.

It is what it is dude. This forum is pretty damn brutal by any metric.

Hope the family is ok ratt.

[Big A]

Everything is fair game on this site dude. You have been here since 2004 so you know this. It will not change.

That's a bullshit cop out, and no justification for being an ass.

[Moose242]

Everything is fair game on this site dude. You have been here since 2004 so you know this. It will not change.