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  • 93LXHORSE
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    Originally posted by Silverback View Post
    my core team that works for me functions with almost no input from me, I have two guys sharing lead duties. The only time they engage me is for escalations. This has allowed me to take on more of my boss' workload to free him up to work on other things. It's a win win for me. I've been here six years and moved up every 2 years to a higher position. Starting after the first of the year I'm heading up an entire group that has 98 employees, and i'll have about 15 direct reports that those other 83 report to.

    And I've already approached a couple of guys about joining my team to be my number 2, so I can get them trained up for me to take Director in a few years.
    Wait. You're the same guy that Bought the MM CC plates over off of Webbs Chapel back in 2000 amirite?

    J/K good job man. I was on my way as well but I took a few years off and let the demon out LOL.

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  • Silverback
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    Originally posted by 93LXHORSE View Post
    Yeah or even a whole team that can function without you if need be. At Siemens I cross trained my install team and found an excellent #2 that could handle things and let him run shit in preparation for his eventual transition to team leader and mine to a tech support role.

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    my core team that works for me functions with almost no input from me, I have two guys sharing lead duties. The only time they engage me is for escalations. This has allowed me to take on more of my boss' workload to free him up to work on other things. It's a win win for me. I've been here six years and moved up every 2 years to a higher position. Starting after the first of the year I'm heading up an entire group that has 98 employees, and i'll have about 15 direct reports that those other 83 report to.

    And I've already approached a couple of guys about joining my team to be my number 2, so I can get them trained up for me to take Director in a few years.

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  • 93LXHORSE
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    Originally posted by Silverback View Post
    the way around that is to always have someone trained to do what you do. Most people feel like they have to keep something that only they can do, to have job security. And they are right, they are secure in being in their job forever because of it.

    I've always had a successor trained, and ready for every promotion I've taken.
    Yeah or even a whole team that can function without you if need be. At Siemens I cross trained my install team and found an excellent #2 that could handle things and let him run shit in preparation for his eventual transition to team leader and mine to a tech support role.

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  • Snatch Napkin
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    It is just as bad when the guy is brand new and they can't get rid of him because then someone up the food chain has to admit they made a mistake in hiring them.
    Originally posted by Snatch Napkin View Post
    That particular bruise is too fresh.

    I need to let it continue healing as I fully grasp the newfound knowledge.
    I take that back.
    Successfully burned that piece of shit today.
    He called me this morning, before my alarm went off, to come up with a new lie that cost me a decent chunk of money.

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  • Ruffdaddy
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    Originally posted by Craizie View Post
    Maybe that's possible in your industry, but I don't see anyway I could do that for myself in my industry.
    Seconded...it aint always that easy, and there isnt always time to train when people are so far from having the skills they need.

    I document exceptionally well to make it look like it would be easy for someone to pick up my work. But i was taught early that it makes you even less replaceable because it shows you know your stuff. It at least gives the illusion that someone could catch up to where they need to be quickly, as opposed to possible delays.

    Its very dependent on the role i guess.

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  • Craizie
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    Originally posted by Silverback View Post
    the way around that is to always have someone trained to do what you do. Most people feel like they have to keep something that only they can do, to have job security. And they are right, they are secure in being in their job forever because of it.

    I've always had a successor trained, and ready for every promotion I've taken.
    Maybe that's possible in your industry, but I don't see anyway I could do that for myself in my industry.

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  • mstng86
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    Originally posted by lowthreeohz View Post
    can you handle copious amounts of jager?
    yes. If that's what is required, I'm all in.

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  • lowthreeohz
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    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    Can I be your successor?
    can you handle copious amounts of jager?

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  • mstng86
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    Originally posted by Silverback View Post
    the way around that is to always have someone trained to do what you do. Most people feel like they have to keep something that only they can do, to have job security. And they are right, they are secure in being in their job forever because of it.

    I've always had a successor trained, and ready for every promotion I've taken.
    Can I be your successor?

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  • Silverback
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    Originally posted by Craizie View Post
    The only thing I have learned in the work force is that hard work is rewarded with more hard work. Do just enough to be a "good" employee. If you work too hard or do too much you'll get passed on for promotions because they can't replace your current position. So the guy you complain about that doesn't do anything gets promoted. He's replaceable.
    the way around that is to always have someone trained to do what you do. Most people feel like they have to keep something that only they can do, to have job security. And they are right, they are secure in being in their job forever because of it.

    I've always had a successor trained, and ready for every promotion I've taken.

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  • abecx
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    Originally posted by Craizie View Post
    The only thing I have learned in the work force is that hard work is rewarded with more hard work. Do just enough to be a "good" employee. If you work too hard or do too much you'll get passed on for promotions because they can't replace your current position. So the guy you complain about that doesn't do anything gets promoted. He's replaceable.
    I used to be in that same conundrum. After much reflection, I quit my job because that was never going to change and I didn't want to lose my work ethic. I eventually learned how to interview the companies I was interviewing with to make sure they were a proper fit for me, even turned down more money. As I saw it, the hardwork I provided was going above and beyond and not asked of me which net me no results. I figured out where I could go ( a place that had many problems ) that fit me better in order to be able to progress my career.

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  • Craizie
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    The only thing I have learned in the work force is that hard work is rewarded with more hard work. Do just enough to be a "good" employee. If you work too hard or do too much you'll get passed on for promotions because they can't replace your current position. So the guy you complain about that doesn't do anything gets promoted. He's replaceable.

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  • abecx
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    There are two things you can have in life, a lot of friends or a lot of money. I already have a lot of friends, I'm ready for that money now.

    AKA, throw them under a bus to improve your position if they are shitheads.

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  • Silverback
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    Originally posted by Mike View Post
    You basically just described me!
    I've made a lucrative career out of being that guy!

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  • Mike
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    We got a guy here now like that who doesn't have a clue what is going on with his own deals. All he does is send emails to try to get others to do his work and take vacations. It is unbelievable.
    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    This guy doesn't do any work. At all.
    You basically just described me!

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