Shots fired at downtown Dallas protest

[Scott Mc]

There is no way this was just one dude acting alone.

My thoughts too, ironic that in dallas we have lone shooters.

[95DRGT]

[Snatch Napkin]

Have to say I have mixed feelings on using a bomb to kill him. Due process goes out the window during live fire if the guy won't surrender, I get that and would rather have him killed on the scene than pay for 10 or 20 years of appeals. On one hand this was an extreme circumstance and after an hour of shooting the only way to stop him. It wasn't the first thing they tried. And like 4king said it may have not even be planned and if that was the case it is even more easily justified. My concern, and where I am iffy on the method, is that it sets a dangerous precident. We have all seen how many trigger happy cops are out their who seem to be itching to kill. How long before they use explosives because it was accepted once in Dallas? How long before swat teams or even patrol officers start requesting and receiving grenades as standard issue equipment?

I am not a anti cop, fuck all the police guy. I am also not the extremely pro police guy I once was. Law enforcement across the country have succeeded in making a lot of sensible people very cautious to trust cops. Backing and covering for the really bad cops makes a lot of the others bad or untrustworthy. There has been a spike in bad behavior by cops and departments and that makes people like me question everything they do. I wish we could return to the days where most cops were like Andy Griffith, but militarization and bad behavior continues.

Going from one incident of using a bomb as a last resort, to standard issue grenades in all squad cars is not the stretch it once was, and that is why I don't like that this happened, although I understand being pushed into that corner.

I didn't like it either, but the dude was claiming to have explosives. Perhaps they were concerned that more officers would be taken out by him if he had explosives on him.

[KBScobravert]

[cobrajet69]

There is no way this was just one dude acting alone.

Grassy knoll



David

[SBFORDTECH]

I have a feeling that is coming very soon, too.

It's here,it's been here for some time.

All of the agencies are armed.


U.S. Customs and Border Protection
• Federal Bureau of Prisons
• Federal Bureau of Investigation
• U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
• U.S. Secret Service
• Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts
• Drug Enforcement Administration
• U.S. Marshals Service
• Veterans Health Administration
• Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation
• Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
• U.S. Postal Inspection Service
• U.S. Capitol Police
• National Park Service - Rangers
• Bureau of Diplomatic Security
• Pentagon Force Protection Agency
• U.S. Forest Service
• U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
• National Park Service - U.S. Park Police
• National Nuclear Security Administration
• U.S. Mint Police
• Amtrak Police
• Bureau of Indian Affairs
• Bureau of Land Management
• Bureau of Engraving and Printing
• Environmental Protection Agency
• Food and Drug Administration
• National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
•Tennessee Valley Authority
• Federal Reserve Board
• U.S. Supreme Court
• Bureau of Industry and Security
• National Institutes of Health
• Library of Congress
• Federal Emergency Management Agency
• National Aeronautics and Space Administration
• Government Printing Office
• National Institute of Standards & Technology
• Smithsonian National Zoological Park
• Bureau of Reclamation
• Department of Health and Human Services
• Department of Defense
• Department of the Treasury, Tax Administration
• Social Security Administration
• Department of Housing and Urban Development
• Department of Labor
• Department of Homeland Security
• Department of Veterans Affairs
• Department of Justice
• Department of Transportation
• Department of Education
• General Services Administration
• Department of the Interior
• National Aeronautics and Space Administration
• Department of Energy
• Environmental Protection Agency
• Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
• Small Business Administration
• Department of State
• Office of Personnel Management
• Department of the Treasury
• Tennessee Valley Authority
• Department of Commerce
• U.S. Railroad Retirement Board
• Agency for International Development
• Nuclear Regulatory Commission
• Corporation for National and Community Service
• National Science Foundation
• National Archives and Records Administration
• Government Printing Office
• Library of Congress

[LANTIRN]

Municipal PDs won't have grenades. Our new nationalized police force will.

I have a feeling that is coming very soon, too.

[SBFORDTECH]

Have to say I have mixed feelings on using a bomb to kill him. Due process goes out the window during live fire if the guy won't surrender, I get that and would rather have him killed on the scene than pay for 10 or 20 years of appeals. On one hand this was an extreme circumstance and after an hour of shooting the only way to stop him. It wasn't the first thing they tried. And like 4king said it may have not even be planned and if that was the case it is even more easily justified. My concern, and where I am iffy on the method, is that it sets a dangerous precident. We have all seen how many trigger happy cops are out their who seem to be itching to kill. How long before they use explosives because it was accepted once in Dallas? How long before swat teams or even patrol officers start requesting and receiving grenades as standard issue equipment?

I am not a anti cop, fuck all the police guy. I am also not the extremely pro police guy I once was. Law enforcement across the country have succeeded in making a lot of sensible people very cautious to trust cops. Backing and covering for the really bad cops makes a lot of the others bad or untrustworthy. There has been a spike in bad behavior by cops and departments and that makes people like me question everything they do. I wish we could return to the days where most cops were like Andy Griffith, but militarization and bad behavior continues.

Going from one incident of using a bomb as a last resort, to standard issue grenades in all squad cars is not the stretch it once was, and that is why I don't like that this happened, although I understand being pushed into that corner.

Municipal PDs won't have grenades. Our new nationalized police force will.

[LANTIRN]

Have to say I have mixed feelings on using a bomb to kill him. Due process goes out the window during live fire if the guy won't surrender, I get that and would rather have him killed on the scene than pay for 10 or 20 years of appeals. On one hand this was an extreme circumstance and after an hour of shooting the only way to stop him. It wasn't the first thing they tried. And like 4king said it may have not even be planned and if that was the case it is even more easily justified. My concern, and where I am iffy on the method, is that it sets a dangerous precident. We have all seen how many trigger happy cops are out their who seem to be itching to kill. How long before they use explosives because it was accepted once in Dallas? How long before swat teams or even patrol officers start requesting and receiving grenades as standard issue equipment?

I am not a anti cop, fuck all the police guy. I am also not the extremely pro police guy I once was. Law enforcement across the country have succeeded in making a lot of sensible people very cautious to trust cops. Backing and covering for the really bad cops makes a lot of the others bad or untrustworthy. There has been a spike in bad behavior by cops and departments and that makes people like me question everything they do. I wish we could return to the days where most cops were like Andy Griffith, but militarization and bad behavior continues.

Going from one incident of using a bomb as a last resort, to standard issue grenades in all squad cars is not the stretch it once was, and that is why I don't like that this happened, although I understand being pushed into that corner.

[line-em-up]