What's it worth

[4king]

If a fox is over 15k it better have a coyote swap or ls swap and a new paint job

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6016105971.html

[Baba Ganoush]

If a fox is over 15k it better have a coyote swap or ls swap and a new paint job

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6016105971.html

Nice original paint > new paint any day, especially as far as value is concerned.

[Broncojohnny]

That is a clean car and I think your offer is about right. His ad makes me a little skeptical by saying it was built for 1,000+ rwhp though. Those parts won't make that kind of power. Maybe he is just referring to the durability of the short block?

[Broncojohnny]

If a fox is over 15k it better have a coyote swap or ls swap and a new paint job

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6016105971.html

Any time I read an ad for a Mustang and I read LS swap I just stop reading and go to the next one.

[93coupett]

60k miles on body - CARFAX verified
Original paint in excellent condition
Cobra body kit
Cowl hood
Interior in excellent condition - everything works
Dart block
Eagle H Beam Rods and crank - 1200 hp rated
Diamond Pistons 9:1 compression
Custom grind cam - got specs just didn't write it down
TF heads with upgraded valve train - didn't write down
TF box intake
Polished T Trim with after cooler
A-1000 pump
Tremec TKO
McLeod Twin Disk Clutch
Alum driveshaft
33 spline axles, 3:55 gears
Tokiko shocks and struts
Subframes
New Wheels / Tires
Assortment of gauges
Made 680 rwhp @ 13# boost in 90* heat 10* timing
Stock computer with chip

[93coupett]

I tell you what, this world is full of lying piece of shits. The guy swears it's all original paint, 60k miles, CARFAX verified, etc. We go back and fourth all day today, I call the shop that built it, talk to him for over an hour, and seem pretty confident in the car. Mind you this guy makes it out to sound like he built the car in his ad and through emails, but the shop tells me the guy selling it is the 3rd or 4th owner since being built. This raises red flags, but the shop seemed legit, has good reviews, and did tell me it was just in being tuned and looked over so I feel pretty good so I'm ok pending my inspection. I was planning on flying out this weekend to look at it and the shop was going to do a compression test while I was there, and then throw it on the dyno. Tonight I'm ready to send a deposit and guess what, the car had 105k in 2004 and was in a wreck in 2005. Now he says he never ran a CARFAX and had no idea. Who the hell buys a car now days with running a history report. So the 60k mile no wreck car actually has 160k and has been in a wreck. God only knows what else he's hiding. I though by upping the budget I could find a more quality car. Instead all you get is bigger lies.

[HarrisonTX]

I tell you what, this world is full of lying piece of shits. The guy swears it's all original paint, 60k miles, CARFAX verified, etc. We go back and fourth all day today, I call the shop that built it, talk to him for over an hour, and seem pretty confident in the car. Mind you this guy makes it out to sound like he built the car in his ad and through emails, but the shop tells me the guy selling it is the 3rd or 4th owner since being built. This raises red flags, but the shop seemed legit, has good reviews, and did tell me it was just in being tuned and looked over so I feel pretty good so I'm ok pending my inspection. I was planning on flying out this weekend to look at it and the shop was going to do a compression test while I was there, and then throw it on the dyno. Tonight I'm ready to send a deposit and guess what, the car had 105k in 2004 and was in a wreck in 2005. Now he says he never ran a CARFAX and had no idea. Who the hell buys a car now days with running a history report. So the 60k mile no wreck car actually has 160k and has been in a wreck. God only knows what else he's hiding. I though by upping the budget I could find a more quality car. Instead all you get is bigger lies.

bummer man. Just pass on to the next one. It's out there.

[93coupett]

bummer man. Just pass on to the next one. It's out there.

To tell you the truth I'm only casually looking and this one just happened to catch my eye and I did really like it. The worst thing about it is that I don't give a damn that it has 160k or that it's been in a wreck. As long as it looks good and makes good power, I'm good. Obviously I wouldn't pay 18k like we finally settled on, but maybe 15k if it looked good in person and put down those #'s. With everything I found out who knows what internals it has. That's likely all lies too. I'm just glad I found this out now before I flew out there or worse yet, after I bought it.

[Sleeper]

Gunna get hard to find anything that hasn't been wrecked these days. But yeah 3rd or 4th owner since built is not a good sign.

Plus the rest of the shit is basic stuff besides the short block. You'll find something better at the same price point imho

[slingshot]

$15K... $18K if it was a notch. Of course that is dependent on it being a solid 8-8.5/10 car.

[blandnuts]

Hell, he probably does think it has 60k miles....

[KBScobravert]

I tell you what, this world is full of lying piece of shits. The guy swears it's all original paint, 60k miles, CARFAX verified, etc. We go back and fourth all day today, I call the shop that built it, talk to him for over an hour, and seem pretty confident in the car. Mind you this guy makes it out to sound like he built the car in his ad and through emails, but the shop tells me the guy selling it is the 3rd or 4th owner since being built. This raises red flags, but the shop seemed legit, has good reviews, and did tell me it was just in being tuned and looked over so I feel pretty good so I'm ok pending my inspection. I was planning on flying out this weekend to look at it and the shop was going to do a compression test while I was there, and then throw it on the dyno. Tonight I'm ready to send a deposit and guess what, the car had 105k in 2004 and was in a wreck in 2005. Now he says he never ran a CARFAX and had no idea. Who the hell buys a car now days with running a history report. So the 60k mile no wreck car actually has 160k and has been in a wreck. God only knows what else he's hiding. I though by upping the budget I could find a more quality car. Instead all you get is bigger lies.

In light of new findings, offer him $10k. Spend the $5-7k you save on making it perfect for you (paint, suspension, etc). Of course, only as long as previous bodywork and repairs were done well enough not to cost you money fixing shitty work.

[snacksnack]

No offense but once i read original paint and cobra body kit the bs flags were flying high. Not to mention why the interior needed redone from bottom to top.

[93coupett]

No offense but once i read original paint and cobra body kit the bs flags were flying high. Not to mention why the interior needed redone from bottom to top.

He says no paint work other than Cobra body kit and to be fair the wreck shows to be minor. He said it was just the bumper, but I'd rather that and the mileage be disclosed rather than me find out the way I did. My coupe also really only has 60k miles and we re-did the interior so I didn't think to much of it. Hindsight though, there were red flags and I'm glad I found out the info I did last night rather than this weekend. I just can't believe he didn't think I would find out. No wonder he didn't send the VIN when I first asked for it.

Anyway.. Still possibly looking for a clean fox or 03 Cobra if anyone finds one.

[Baron Von Crowder]

one of my customers has a yellow 03 cobra.

http://www.teddysmotorsports.com/inventory/view/9760424/2003-Ford-Mustang-2dr-Cpe-SVT-Cobra-Austin-TX