Active shooter....Las Vegas

[CJ]

These are the best I can come up with from the liveleak link provided earlier.
Bloodspatter doesn't match soaked blood and fresh blood, gun, or casings.

If you shoot yourself in the head with a pistol, you basically bleed out of your mouth and nose. The high velocity spatter would be confined to where he fired the gun, not where he fell to the ground. That looks like a .38, more than likely it didn't even exit. those cases were sitting on carpet that eventually had blood soak under them. That isn't a clue. It could be a note, it also could be an invoice for his hotel or something unrelated.

[dsrtuckteezy]

He was standing with a tripod equipped weapon in front of a curtained window when he shot himself, thus falling down leaving a foot under the weapon he was killing people with?

looks like hes laying on a gun too. this guy wasnt fucking around and firing multiple weapons

[GhostTX]

Looks like he was switching guns instead of reloading.

[svauto-erotic855]

looks like hes laying on a gun too. this guy wasnt fucking around and firing multiple weapons

Am I the only person who thinks that it is funny that he felt the need to bring that many ARs to insure that he would be able to fire a bunch of shots when he could have brought just one or two AKs?

[LS1Goat]

“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless.”
― Alan Moore

[KBScobravert]

The "no muzzle flash" argument is bogus. With the equipment shown in the pictures that are circulating, you'd be lucky to see a muzzle flash from 10 meters away, not to mention 400-500 meters away. Even with a standard A2 birdcage flash hider, there is very little muzzle flash. They work just as their name suggests. This ain't Hollywood.
The "I heard echoes/soundwaves/reverberations/weirdness suggesting multiple shooters!!!111" argument, also bogus. Ever had a semi or full auto military weapon fired at you in a large open area? I have. They make some very strange audio illusions.

All this.

At 400 meters you are gonna hear the sonic crack before you hear the weapons fire.

Go shoot at night with 18" barrels and any brake flash hider. If the propellant burns all in the barrel there is little to no signature. Opposite, shoot a 7.5" 5.56 rifle and it lights up the sky.

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[KBScobravert]

and to all the conspiracy theorists, there has to be a thousand cameras in that hotel. Rumors are beginning that came out with the contents of the room that he videos the whole thing. Thus isn't Oceans 14 where a team hacked their surveillance system and escaped in an underground tunnel.

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[KBScobravert]

And to all the gunshot sound experts, I've watched Heat. Particularly the city gun fight scene with multiple caliber weapons being fired around high rise buildings at different cadences. On surround sound, you too can up your gun fight forensic skills.



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[HarrisonTX]

I've watched this a couple of times and don't hear anything that would make me think it's more than one gun going off at a time. You're going to have shots, echoes, and the sounds of impact. You really have to want to hear a second shooter to get that from it, imo.

Thats exactly what i was about to say. You're hearing rounds impact on far different surfaces. Grass/concrete/etc.

I love how people who have never been around weapons, or ROF like this are instantly experts lol

[LANTIRN]

Am I the only person who thinks that it is funny that he felt the need to bring that many ARs to insure that he would be able to fire a bunch of shots when he could have brought just one or two AKs?

I don't think this is a relibility issue or ak vs ar argumet. His strategy appears to have mainly been dump mag, drop gun, pick up loded gun, keep firing. Probably faster for him since he probably thought he didn't have long for the crowd to stand still. Saw a pic with a bunch of extra mags so who knows what he was planning if SWAT had taken an extra hour. It does appear he brought a lot of extra ammo though, but maybe he was making sure he didn't run out. He didn't seem to have any plans to leave the room so I guess he decided to be a stocked up as possibly. That is what I see from the pics anyway.

[Big Dad]

Those aren't slippers, those are just slip on shoes ..

I'm sure shell casing were kicked around as SWAT rushed in they didn't say cheese 1st then take a pic , they secured the area then took pics

I don't have any idea what would drive him to do this but, I think he was the lone gun man.

Crazy walks among us all, every day ..

[lowthreeohz]

I find the gloves more curious, but I also haven't handled an ar after firing hundreds of rounds in a short time. I imagine it'd be warm though.

[Chili]

“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless.”
― Alan Moore

That makes a whole lot of sense. I have often wondered WTF is wrong with these people.. And I agree with the statement.

[BP]

Just to throw some more fuel into the fire here. Remember the casino attack in Manila a few months ago?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/world/asia/shooting-resorts-world-manila.html?action=click&contentCollection=Asia%20Pacific&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article

Paddock wired $100k to the Phillipines, where his girlfriend happened to be staying just before the attack. Also note the name of the author. They may not be related but he's a never Trumper that writes for the NY Times and is currently living in the Phillipines.

[BLAKE]

The armchair forensics experts are highly entertaining.

“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless.”
― Alan Moore

Thank you.