Dallas officer kills man after mistaking his apartment for her own

[jewozzy]

I think slightly more officers are killed every year in the line of duty in car accidents than by gunfire. You can see the exact number of officers killed and what killed them going back for nearly 4 hundred years on the www.odmp.org page. In a typical year slightly over 150 officers die in the line of duty and the majority of deaths are caused by heart attacks and auto accidents.

In the entire history of the United States going back to the very first colony in the New World to today 23,842 law enforcement officers have died in the line of duty, this number also includes prison and jail guards. We have significantly more people killed then that every single year in auto accidents.

That doesn't include how many officers are either assaulted and/or are placed in violent situations though. Just because an officer survives an encounter doesn't mean there isn't a heightened sense of being assaulted/killed.

[Baron Von Crowder]

I think slightly more officers are killed every year in the line of duty in car accidents than by gunfire. You can see the exact number of officers killed and what killed them going back for nearly 4 hundred years on the www.odmp.org page. In a typical year slightly over 150 officers die in the line of duty and the majority of deaths are caused by heart attacks and auto accidents.

In the entire history of the United States going back to the very first colony in the New World to today 23,842 law enforcement officers have died in the line of duty, this number also includes prison and jail guards. We have significantly more people killed then that every single year in auto accidents.

well, I guess they shouldnt be cautious, fuck it.

[svauto-erotic855]

I somewhat agree, but anyone I come in contact with at work likely isnt going to try to kill me, whereas that's not the case with police.

I think slightly more officers are killed every year in the line of duty in car accidents than by gunfire. You can see the exact number of officers killed and what killed them going back for nearly 4 hundred years on the www.odmp.org page. In a typical year slightly over 150 officers die in the line of duty and the majority of deaths are caused by heart attacks and auto accidents.

In the entire history of the United States going back to the very first colony in the New World to today 23,842 law enforcement officers have died in the line of duty, this number also includes prison and jail guards. We have significantly more people killed then that every single year in auto accidents.

[jewozzy]

I can certainly undersrand the point of always feeling under attack.

It's just comical to me to pretend that 10 hours is too much....especially for someone that's supposed to be trained to handle this stress.

I also agree that a murder charge sounds like a get out of jail free charge. Manslaughter would be a much easier case.

No case is an easy one with this because it doesn't fit the criteria for anything. I think you nailed it that they went with the murder charge just to say, "Hey we tried!"

[jewozzy]

Somehow when she pulled the trigger she planned to kill someone. So how many times do officers have to ask someone to out their hand up or to stay where they are before shooting?

0. But the people testifying yesterday said they heard her yelling though they couldn't confirm what was being yelled.

[Ruffdaddy]

I somewhat agree, but anyone I come in contact with at work likely isnt going to try to kill me, whereas that's not the case with police.

I can certainly undersrand the point of always feeling under attack.

It's just comical to me to pretend that 10 hours is too much....especially for someone that's supposed to be trained to handle this stress.

I also agree that a murder charge sounds like a get out of jail free charge. Manslaughter would be a much easier case.

[Baron Von Crowder]

It annoys me that they claim working 40 hours in 4 days is somehow massively taxing. Who isnt working at least 10 hours a day...and some of us have to string together anywhere from 6 to 30+ days of that.

I've got friends doing o&g field work that regularly work 80+ hours...

I somewhat agree, but anyone I come in contact with at work likely isnt going to try to kill me, whereas that's not the case with police.

[svauto-erotic855]

It annoys me that they claim working 40 hours in 4 days is somehow massively taxing. Who isnt working at least 10 hours a day...and some of us have to string together anywhere from 6 to 30+ days of that.

I've got friends doing o&g field work that regularly work 80+ hours...

I have worked 12 to 14 hours per day for 6 and sometime 7 days per week for all of my adult working life. 40 hours in 4 days sounds like a vacation to me.

[Ruffdaddy]

It annoys me that they claim working 40 hours in 4 days is somehow massively taxing. Who isnt working at least 10 hours a day...and some of us have to string together anywhere from 6 to 30+ days of that.

I've got friends doing o&g field work that regularly work 80+ hours...

[lincolnboy]

Murder? Not a chance in hell. Murder means premeditated, planned. This does not even remotely come to that charge. Its a terrible situation all around...it's easy for all the armchair quarterbacks to say how they would have handled the exact same scenario. Anyone who says how they would have handled it matter of fact....are full of shit. I can see involuntary manslaughter...MAYBE criminally negligent homicide...but I'm arguing that she DID NOT KNOW (beyond a reasonable doubt) that she was NOT in her home. I don't think this cop came home from her shift planning to murder an innocent man in his own home. The murder charge is completely inappropriate and if we weren't in this politically motivated time I doubt it would have ever been considered. It was a terrible, horrific situation...she made mistakes....very bad mistakes...but she didn't enter that building planning to kill someone.

Somehow when she pulled the trigger she planned to kill someone. So how many times do officers have to ask someone to out their hand up or to stay where they are before shooting?

[jewozzy]

Deadly conduct.

Doesn't fit deadly conduct in my opinion. Almost all charges that you can think of the culpable mental state wont fit the criteria for the rest of the crime.

Texas Penal Code 22.05 – Deadly Conduct
Current as of: 2018 | Check for updates | Other versions
(a) A person commits an offense if he recklessly engages in conduct that places another in imminent danger of serious bodily injury.
(b) A person commits an offense if he knowingly discharges a firearm at or in the direction of:
(1) one or more individuals; or
(2) a habitation, building, or vehicle and is reckless as to whether the habitation, building, or vehicle is occupied.

Texas Penal Code § 6.03. Definitions of Culpable Mental States
(c) A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur.  The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.

[ram57ta]

Murder? Not a chance in hell. Murder means premeditated, planned. This does not even remotely come to that charge. Its a terrible situation all around...it's easy for all the armchair quarterbacks to say how they would have handled the exact same scenario. Anyone who says how they would have handled it matter of fact....are full of shit. I can see involuntary manslaughter...MAYBE criminally negligent homicide...but I'm arguing that she DID NOT KNOW (beyond a reasonable doubt) that she was NOT in her home. I don't think this cop came home from her shift planning to murder an innocent man in his own home. The murder charge is completely inappropriate and if we weren't in this politically motivated time I doubt it would have ever been considered. It was a terrible, horrific situation...she made mistakes....very bad mistakes...but she didn't enter that building planning to kill someone.

[svauto-erotic855]

Yeah, I think they charged too high. They'll never prove murder..
So , where you think the riots will be ?

With any luck they'll be on my street.

[svauto-erotic855]

What was the other crime?

Deadly conduct.

[txstangnut]

I just do not think this meets the level of murder. I do think man slaughter would have been the correct charge.