It's amazing the stuff you can say in an interview when you already have a job...

[cobrajet69]

Negative, that process is how you determine what you're truly worth in the marketplace. Sure, you may think your current employer is paying you baller money, but the only way to know for sure is to go through the interview process to see if other companies will beat your current compensation by a sizeable amount.

This is true.

I was asked/courted to come on an interview with a competitor and was in the same situation as the OP where I could say anything I wanted to say, respectfully, and it turned out to be a really good conversation. He knew I am being underpaid and wanted to offer significantly more money but for other reasons, I’m staying where I’m at for now.

David

[cobrajet69]

Nah, actually I am really grateful. I must remain humble... I remember when I was desperate for work and was actually not a desirable employee.

Through a lot of hard work I am of some value on this earth again.

I also have a bit of loyalty to my current company and this other gig would have put me on the road quite a bit, and I like my own bed, and my wife and dog.

Good on you man, congrats!

David

[Craizie]

Negative, that process is how you determine what you're truly worth in the marketplace. Sure, you may think your current employer is paying you baller money, but the only way to know for sure is to go through the interview process to see if other companies will beat your current compensation by a sizeable amount.

I was just talking shit, dude.

[Shaggin Wagon]

or an apostrophe and the letter "e".

This is true, the boss walked in, no time to proof...

[93LXHORSE]

And all of this was done by phone, site unseen by the other company. They are based in the Netherlands. They operate a bit differently. I did 2 group phone interviews and took an aptitude and technical knowledge test, they made me an offer and sent a contract. I turned down that offer and threw out another figure.

In the mean time my review at my current job came up and my raise was a 17% raise, they are paying for my further specialized education, and I can operate how I see fit with no micromanagement. I work with a good group of guys and we are a great team.The education I am getting will be of great value and get me to my goal of being an independent consultant / programmer / integrator someday. We design custom automation machines, do all the electronic design, PLC and Motion Control programming, etc. My job is to make our new shit work with their existing automation / robotic equipment.

Then the other company came back with their offer and I turned it down. That job was a lot of travel to different industries that use robotic cutting equipment to cut steel tubing and beams for the shipbuilding industry. Integration of equipment, commissioning and training. Constant travel. A bit more money but not worth it overall, I am tired of traveling that much.

Anytime you can practice interviewing, negotiating, and gauging your value, it is well worth the time spent. In my case I never even got out of my boxer shorts to do it.

Am I almost as bad ass as Semi-Neurotic-SVO?

[racrguy]

Sounds like you're a time wasting son-of-a-bitch.

Negative, that process is how you determine what you're truly worth in the marketplace. Sure, you may think your current employer is paying you baller money, but the only way to know for sure is to go through the interview process to see if other companies will beat your current compensation by a sizeable amount.

[AnthonyS]

If SVO is boarding, then it's a yacht. SVO Bilzerian doesn't fuck with boats.

It’s probably a mega yacht loaded with Russian talent, an ice bar, two helipads, and a smaller yacht launch for going ashore.

[Sean88gt]

Must be nice.. imagine the awesomeness if svo boarded the boat

If SVO is boarding, then it's a yacht. SVO Bilzerian doesn't fuck with boats.

[orphan Shelby]

Must be nice.. imagine the awesomeness if svo boarded the boat

[juiceweezl]

...all your missing is the girlfriend!

or an apostrophe and the letter "e".

[AnthonyS]

It’s way better to have them come to you instead of vice versa. I ended up staying put since I know I’m staring at complete job security. It’s nice knowing what you will be working on tomorrow, next week, next month and next year.

[93LXHORSE]

Sounds like you're a time wasting son-of-a-bitch.

That back and forth started while my review was upcoming. The end result of my review and increase dictated my final decision....

At the very least it was damn good practice with no consequences.

The ballsy move is when you try that shit while sitting at home really needing work, lol.

[Ruffdaddy]

I always tell people to look for a job when they still have a job.

One will net you more money and open more options. The other will possibly reduce your salary and force you to take a less than optimum position. I never understood the people that wait to get laid off...but then again they're the under performers so I guess they're not known for good decision making.

[Shaggin Wagon]

...all your missing is the girlfriend!

[93LXHORSE]

Nah, actually I am really grateful. I must remain humble... I remember when I was desperate for work and was actually not a desirable employee.

Through a lot of hard work I am of some value on this earth again.

I also have a bit of loyalty to my current company and this other gig would have put me on the road quite a bit, and I like my own bed, and my wife and dog.