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Originally posted by Big Dad View PostSo, they pass and pull right infront of me and I have to step on the brake, kick the cruise off and lose momentum and drop a gear , hit the jake
I REALLY understand what you are saying. I also would not expect you as a safety minded person to break the speed limit at all when hauling a load/trailer. Interesting.
Anyway, I'm not saying change lanes every 3 seconds when you're hauling a trailer. You know when you can and need to move over. Yeah, when the ten cars trying to get around you have to turn into assholes to get around you. That's when you should have got over.
You're probably that guy who is billy bad ass in his truck and does not have to do shit. Then you want to complain. There is a thing I call courtesy. It's not a law, it's not a rule. Moving out of the way for faster traffic to get by has always been a courtesy to me, regardless of the speed limits. Plenty of back roads and so forth you can do the speed limit and have a line of traffic behind you.
I think you know better and I think you understand the gripe. You just give me the impression you don't give a damn. That's fine, but continue to whine and endure people having to drop gearing and accelerate past you like idiots. Then you'll have to brake because no...I don't want to do 95, I only want to do 75 in the damned 70 but I had to do 95 to get past you - who only cares about you on the road.
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Originally posted by Big Dad View PostBullshit , I am over the SPEED LIMIT , YOU THINK I AM HOLDING YOU UP
Did you read what I posted ?
If I'm passing cars and am going 5 over the limit I'm not pulling over to get tangled up in the cars 10 under
You do not own the roads, period
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Originally posted by Big Dad View Postyou win , its obvious your skill far surpasses mine ..
Speed on brother , hope you win the watemelon 500 you are shooting for !
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you win , its obvious your skill far surpasses mine ..
Speed on brother , hope you win the watemelon 500 you are shooting for !
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Originally posted by Big Dad View PostBreaking any law comes with risk, if I decide to go 1-5 over , I take that risk .
iThe "fast" lane does not allow anyone to go 5 , 10 more more over
You do that you cause risk to everyone around you
Let me school you ,its "speed limit" unless its posted for a min speed it is well within the person right to operate the vehicle safe as they see it
So, with your reasoning, I can just pull in front of you and your trailer and slowdown making you break your cruise control and hit the jake?
Still lacking that consistency, I see.
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Originally posted by exlude View PostSo we should not exceed the speed limit at all? You don't even buy into that. And that returns to the argument that it's okay to sit in the fast lane as long as you are above the minimum speed. 45mph in the fast lane on a 60mph road. Sounds good!
Consistency, try it.
iThe "fast" lane does not allow anyone to go 5 , 10 more more over
You do that you cause risk to everyone around you
Let me school you ,its "speed limit" unless its posted for a min speed it is well within the person right to operate the vehicle safe as they see it
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Originally posted by Big Dad View PostThe law decided it we don't have to "as a society"
Speed limit, go it
Consistency, try it.
It's people with your fucked up "wannabe traffic cop" mentality that screw up easy driving for the rest of us.
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Originally posted by exlude View PostWell, since you won't simply answer the question, here's my point:
I understand extreme speeds, say, 15-20mph over. I don't like it anymore than you do. However, I was trying to get you to define a minimum of what's acceptable for the fast lane. Do we define, as a society, that if you are going 1 mph over and passing cars, you're good? Or is it 5-7mph and you're good? Does it matter how long of a line you are holding up behind you?
It seems a lot more simple to me to simply abide by the unspoken rule that, if there are cars behind you, move over and let them pass. Now, if some assfuck is going to come flying up behind me at 20+ over, I'm not going to race to get out of the way so he can maintain his 20+ over...but I'm also not going to play cop and squat on someone who's going 8+ over to my 5+ over. I'd hope to get the same in return.
I'll simply move over, let him pass, then get back in the fast lane at my 5+ over.
As I said before, there's a law in Oregon on some of the mountain roads that says to pull over if 3+ cars are stacked behind you. Seems pretty common sense, let alone courteous, to me.
The law decided it we don't have to "as a society"
Speed limit, go it
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On a sidebar to this discussion
I have a dually pickup that I pull a 32 foot enclosed with , it will easy run 80 mph , even in hills .. it will do that
I click the cruise on at 74-76 most often the some people love to zing around me and then lane change because in open areas they don't want to carry that 82ish area to stay ahead
So, they pass and pull right infront of me and I have to step on the brake, kick the cruise off and lose momentum and drop a gear , hit the jake
Just to see them either pull off at next exit or ..?
Slow the fuck down, be aware we are all trying to get somewhere safe
I can't stop 19,000 lbs in 100 feet
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Well, since you won't simply answer the question, here's my point:
I understand extreme speeds, say, 15-20mph over. I don't like it anymore than you do. However, I was trying to get you to define a minimum of what's acceptable for the fast lane. Do we define, as a society, that if you are going 1 mph over and passing cars, you're good? Or is it 5-7mph and you're good? Does it matter how long of a line you are holding up behind you?
It seems a lot more simple to me to simply abide by the unspoken rule that, if there are cars behind you, move over and let them pass. Now, if some assfuck is going to come flying up behind me at 20+ over, I'm not going to race to get out of the way so he can maintain his 20+ over...but I'm also not going to play cop and squat on someone who's going 8+ over to my 5+ over. I'd hope to get the same in return.
I'll simply move over, let him pass, then get back in the fast lane at my 5+ over.
As I said before, there's a law in Oregon on some of the mountain roads that says to pull over if 3+ cars are stacked behind you. Seems pretty common sense, let alone courteous, to me.
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Originally posted by exlude View PostOkay, next time without all the convolution:
In your point of view, it's acceptable to sit in the fast lane going 1 mph over as long as you are passing people, no matter how slowly?
Well, if the speed limit is 65 and some one is going 68 to 70 since you want to nit pick the speed limit issue
I have no issue , in heavy traffic, its most likely all you can go for the short term regardless .
In open areas again I drive often 300 -600 miles in a daily drive without much stopping and have been passed by the same people, same car sometimes 6 times or more .
There is simply no need to be that aggressive, it gets you no where, fast
I am quite capable to manage my vehicle in my lane, you do the same
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Originally posted by Big Dad View Postif you could read, I said .. 70-72 in a 65 , do you need me to do the math ?
And yes, if you are passing people , over the speed limit ..
Why do you think you should decide how far I choose to risk a speeding ticket
Typically there is more than one lane, pull your fast and furious bullshit and get around me Mario
I drive my car / truck my way .. You act like and ass and create all the accidents you feel you need to
Trust me, you might arrive at the same spot less then 5 minutes ahead of me
Is that really worth the stupidity and risk
In your point of view, it's acceptable to sit in the fast lane going 1 mph over as long as you are passing people, no matter how slowly?
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Originally posted by exlude View PostSo if I'm going 1 over, and very, very, very slowly passing cars...I'm good in the fast lane?
You get over for cars behind you, period. Then merge back in the fast lane and carry on.
And yes, if you are passing people , over the speed limit ..
Why do you think you should decide how far I choose to risk a speeding ticket
Typically there is more than one lane, pull your fast and furious bullshit and get around me Mario
I drive my car / truck my way .. You act like and ass and create all the accidents you feel you need to
Trust me, you might arrive at the same spot less then 5 minutes ahead of me
Is that really worth the stupidity and risk
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Originally posted by sig239 View PostI just grab a lane in traffic and stay in it and just try to stay a little slower than traffic and keep as steady of moving average speed as I can, and let people move around me. I try not to change lanes as there are huge blind spots and fools that swing out from behind my bumper that where so close I didn't know they where even there. Lane change = more chance of a bad day for all.
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