Info regarding this outbreak.

[black2002ls]

I disagree...and I had thought the same as you until this week.

My grandfather sent out an email complaining that his rural county is still allowing people to commute for their jobs into the metroplex. He was worried this was likely to spread to kids and then they would get sick when hanging out with grandkids. I told him that the CDC recommends self isolation for high risk people in the mean time. His response was that they didnt want to stop seeing their grand kids because that's inconvenient.

This selfish piece of shit would rather people go bankrupt than his retired 90 year old high risk ass have to change any of his behaviors. He literally wanted the county to lock down travel for all the healthy people but was unwilling to do anything to help himself.

Even my in laws have been going out like everything is normal and they're in their 60s.

I'm not sure I follow. That seems to coincide with what I said. I wasn't making a statement pointed at a particular generation of the population. Hell there are plenty of people in every generation that take them, I'm going to do what I want mindset, fuck the rules or what is best for those around me.

Edited to add:

I'm not really referencing the, I'm going to and from work whether they like it or not. Or I have to go to work, etc. I'm referencing the people who are not willing to make personal sacrifices at the detriment of their social life. People who don't realize that the more they are around "other" people, the greater the chance that they get the virus, or spread the virus. By "other" people, I mean people outside of your normal circle. It would be a safe assumption that you would be familiar enough with people inside of your normal circle to know whether they are going to take unnecessary risks. Thus minimizing the (your) potential for exposure.

[Ruffdaddy]

I'm not sure I follow. That seems to coincide with what I said. I wasn't making a statement pointed at a particular generation of the population. Hell there are plenty of people in every generation that take them, I'm going to do what I want mindset, fuck the rules or what is best for those around me.

Sorry there are only portions of your post I disagreed with and that's the comment about people with iron clad immune systems.

The high risk people are the ones I've seen that pose the biggest risk to overloading an ER as italy has proven.

[black2002ls]

Sorry there are only portions of your post I disagreed with and that's the comment about people with iron clad immune systems.

The high risk people are the ones I've seen that pose the biggest risk to overloading an ER as italy has proven.

I follow now. Wasn't so much referring to the overload on the healthcare system so much as I was the spread and potential for exponential growth of infected population.

[Ruffdaddy]

I follow now. Wasn't so much referring to the overload on the healthcare system so much as I was the spread and potential for exponential growth of infected population.

Read the data and you'll see the biggest problem in Italy is old folks swamping hospitals.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/south-korea-italy-coronavirus-survivability-sepkowitz/index.html

It sucks, but they are the ones that need to be locked down

[black2002ls]

Read the data and you'll see the biggest problem in Italy is old folks swamping hospitals.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/south-korea-italy-coronavirus-survivability-sepkowitz/index.html

It sucks, but they are the ones that need to be locked down

I've been following it all pretty closely. I expect, at some point, for us to have similar issues here. I just feel that it is going to be compounded by a mentality that has bred in our country, over the last decade or two, where people have taken the " fuck you guys I'm doing what I want because it is my time, I have earned this, I deserve this" etc. No regard for the repercussions or how it affects those around them.

[Ruffdaddy]

This is not a new or recent mentality. My entire team of mostly millenials and gen Zers is being responsible and self isolating. Half of the old folks I know are being selfish pricks.

[Big A]

This is not a new or recent mentality. My entire team of mostly millenials and gen Zers is being responsible and self isolating. Half of the old folks I know are being selfish pricks.

The millenial in my house is bitching and moaning about stores being closed, and her life being disrupted, with zero empathy for the situation. You are all about the data, so realize that you speak for yourself, not two entire generations.

Conversely my folks are gladly isolating, with a light heart, and dad's bad jokes.

[The King]

The millenial in my house is bitching and moaning about stores being closed, and her life being disrupted, with zero empathy for the situation. You are all about the data, so realize that you speak for yourself, not two entire generations.

Conversely my folks are gladly isolating, with a light heart, and dad's bad jokes.

Question, again with no offense intended, but why is this millennial still in your house instead of doing things the old-fashioned way and making her own way in the world?

[Ruffdaddy]

The millenial in my house is bitching and moaning about stores being closed, and her life being disrupted, with zero empathy for the situation. You are all about the data, so realize that you speak for yourself, not two entire generations.

Conversely my folks are gladly isolating, with a light heart, and dad's bad jokes.

You do understand that I provided data detailing exactly why the old folks are crushing Italy right?

All of the other comments are in direct support of my point that the younger generation is not the main problem here.

[Big A]

Question, again with no offense intended, but why is this millennial still in your house instead of doing things the old-fashioned way and making her own way in the world?

My bad, Gen Z, she graduates HS this year.

[kingjason]

My mother, my in laws, and their two friends are like "whatever". All in their 70's and actually in good health. The sad thing is the in laws have a summer home in Michigan that is in a fairly isolated little community. If I was them I would probably stay down here though, better medical. Plus that community up there is all old folk probably fresh off a cruise somewhere.

[DON SVO]

My utter frustration from this comes from the Swine Flu/H1N1 back in 2009: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009...States#History

CDC claims over 60 million were infected and over 12,000 died.

I feel that history/studies/scholars may well look back at the culpability of the media to downplay one illness (H1N1) and blow another out of proportion.

[Trip McNeely]

24-48 HOURS, that a better time frame? I guess having a national guard member and a SWAT captain aren't valid sources of information.

I'm still here waiting on what "IT" is...

[Ruffdaddy]

My utter frustration from this comes from the Swine Flu/H1N1 back in 2009: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009...States#History

CDC claims over 60 million were infected and over 12,000 died.

I feel that history/studies/scholars may well look back at the culpability of the media to downplay one illness (H1N1) and blow another out of proportion.

The Wuhan 400 has almost surpassed the total H1N1 death count despite H1N1 having 200 times as many cases. I would consider 2 orders of magnitude enough to warrant the difference in response.

[kingjason]

My utter frustration from this comes from the Swine Flu/H1N1 back in 2009: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009...States#History

CDC claims over 60 million were infected and over 12,000 died.

I feel that history/studies/scholars may well look back at the culpability of the media to downplay one illness (H1N1) and blow another out of proportion.

I think even though the tooth paste is out of the tube, if we can get ahead of this, trump is going to look like a god damn genius. If you literally just stop all credit/housing payments (for those unemployed temporarily), get some anti virals out there like the one I mentioned prior and now they are talking about again, make sure everyone has essentials (IE 500-1000 dollars), the cases stop growing, and bam the world starts turning again. So what if some billionaire didn't make his 200 million this week. Oh and of course the amount of shit that America will start producing again should be marvelous.

Trump: FDA will fast track anti-viral treatments for coronavirus patients
President Trump says the FDA will be fast-tracking anti-viral treatments for coronavirus.

Trump and FDA commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn described several approaches under testing, such as chloroquine, a drug long used to treat malaria; remdesivir, an experimental antiviral that's being tried in at least five separate experiments, and possibly antibodies culled from the blood of COVID-19 patients after they recover. But no new and imminent treatment was announced.

And Italy is what it is. I feel bad for those folks. My wife was over there for a bit and so was some of her family. The go to the market everyday, have no personal space, lots of family events.

A study from Italy's health authority found that 99% of Italy's coronavirus fatalities came from people who had previous medical conditions.

Italy's death rate is about 8% of total infected people, higher than any other country, according to Bloomberg.

The study found that of those who died from coronavirus 75% had high blood pressure, 35% had diabetes and 33% suffered from heart disease. The average age of those who died from the virus was 79.5.


And don't jump me negative nellys, I am just trying to be positive and not get my anxiety up over this. You know cops are paranoid anyways! I hope I am right but I could be wrong.